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1 posted on 01/09/2007 9:43:12 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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And thanks to the deductability of state and local taxes, the state of California will get a great big federal tax deduction to help pay for this.

Stupid Republicans had a chance to fix this but never did.

Hey! I'm talking to you, Putnam R-FL!


2 posted on 01/09/2007 9:46:50 PM PST by mc6809e
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The great State of Arizona extends a warm (very warm) welcome to the entrepreneurs and corporations fleeing the fleecing.
3 posted on 01/09/2007 9:55:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Saddam Hussein Obama)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/09/AR2007010901630.html

On his health-care plan, Schwarzenegger tried to sidestep Republican orthodoxy against higher taxes by calling for an increase in "fees" to pay for expanded state coverage.

"Whether or not a fee is a tax, whatever you call it, in his proposal we would not support it," said state Senate Republican leader Dick Ackerman. "There's some areas in here which we support and some areas we don't support. He's proposing covering illegal immigrants, and that we do not support."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-analysis9jan09,1,5500664.story?coll=la-headlines-politics

Business leaders and conservative lawmakers were not immediately buying the governor's proposal.

"It is disappointing that just 72 hours into his [second term] he's shattered the central campaign pledge upon which he won reelection — not to raise taxes," said state Sen. Tom McClintock (R-Thousand Oaks), who ran unsuccessfully for lieutenant governor last year with the governor's support.

"I think it's ironic," McClintock continued, "that a governor who just proclaimed himself a centrist would come up with a proposal well to the left of the one presented by Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata," a Democrat from Oakland.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01/10/news/top_stories/1_01_061_8_07.txt

Assembly Republican leader Mike Villines said in a statement that he opposed requiring businesses to pay taxes in lieu of providing health insurance.

"Imposing a new jobs tax on employers of any size and expanding costly government mandates is the wrong approach, one which will devastate our economy," Villines said. "We continue to agree with the governor's statements in 2004, when he argued that a new jobs tax will be a job killer and force many businesses to lay off workers, move out of state or close their doors for good."

The plan also drew strong reaction from those who oppose state benefits for illegal immigrants. Several local Republican lawmakers, including state Sen. Mark Wyland, R-Carlsbad, said they would oppose enrolling illegal immigrants in state-funded health programs.

"I don't think we should be asking citizens to cover benefits for those who are here illegally," Wyland said.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage/abox/article_1538709.php

Republicans said tax dollars shouldn't go to help cover uninsured illegal immigrants, estimated at 1 million people by the state.

Schwarzenegger said the federal government requires medical care for illegal immigrants. Instead of providing them with the most expensive – at emergency rooms – the state should provide care efficiently and with less expense through insurance programs, he said.

But Senate Republican Leader Dick Ackerman of Irvine said uninsured illegal immigrants might number more than 2 million people and that some health care assumptions need to be studied.

"Nobody knows the exact number. I think everybody is making an educated guess," Ackerman said.

The health care debate needs to slow down while the state tries to get better numbers, he said.

Ackerman said Republicans estimate as many as 900,000 people in the state can afford insurance but choose not to buy it and another 900,000 already qualify for programs. If those numbers are correct, he said, the state might not need a program as radical as the governor's.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/16419206.htm

The administration contends the governor’s plan does not include taxes because the money collected will be recycled specifically into health coverage.

California Chamber of Commerce President Allan Zaremberg, who worked in the administration of two Republican governors, maintains "revenue enhancements" in the plan require a two-thirds vote of the Legislature.

"The payroll tax on employers and the 4 percent and 2 percent charge on hospitals and doctors, require a two-thirds vote," Zaremberg said.


4 posted on 01/09/2007 9:59:01 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Politicians are not evil unless empowered by the illiterates that elect them.

Don't blame the elected, blame the power that enabled them.

Arnie is liking the weekends at the Kennedy compound.

5 posted on 01/09/2007 10:14:46 PM PST by quantim (Carcinoma Senatorus = Incurable cancer causing senators to think they're Presidential material.)
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The key problem is the word "universal." It assumes every one has the same health care needs and tries to shoehorn people into a one-size fits all plan. Which of course, rarely works. A better approach is to de-regulate health care and allow people to decide what kind of health care coverage they need and how much they want to pay for it. That would go a long way towards addressing the affordability issue. Engaging the market rather than the heavy hand of government would in the long run, make health care affordable and accessible to all.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 01/09/2007 10:32:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Well, so much for Arnold being a fiscal conservative. That didn't last too long, did it.


7 posted on 01/09/2007 10:45:22 PM PST by psjones (u)
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This is so out of touch with the reasons he came to be Governor, e.g reducing taxes and repelling illegal immigrant diver's license, and so out of touch with reality of what going to happen by taxing small business which will fold in competition with untaxed underground black labor market. Not to mention a magnet to draw even more illegal black market workers to the US under the hope of free health care. It is astounding that Arnold could be so stupid to set this in motion. The stem cell and global waring stuff were crazy, but this is just plain stupid.

Perhaps not stupid at all, maybe its a ploy to get people outraged, for instance no matter what republicans do, liberals are going to oppose it, and even in this case perhaps the liberals will come out and oppose Arnold in spite. So then when Hillary brings up the same issue nationally CA liberals will have already opposed it, and have it dead on arrival?

Naaa...just wishfully thinking actually things are going down the tubes very fast, this one more proof.


8 posted on 01/09/2007 11:08:34 PM PST by seastay
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Most of the problems with health care -- including the costs -- were created by government involvement. More government meddling will only exacerbate the situation.

And yet, regardless of who we vote for, we're on a slow but steady course toward socialized health care.
15 posted on 01/10/2007 4:52:40 AM PST by LIConFem
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As soon as everyone gets accustomed to govt health care, it will be considered deviant to use anything else. And soon after that it will be criminalized.


16 posted on 01/10/2007 6:14:18 AM PST by Graymatter
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17 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:36 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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Will this RINO's unofficial campaign manager -- Sean Hannity -- finally admit he made a mistake supporting this him?
20 posted on 01/10/2007 9:16:11 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: SirLinksalot
Robert Nozick's phrase, "capitalist acts between consenting adults."

If only Nozick, Friedman, or Hayek were alive today.... we need forceful intellectual advocates for individual freedom. These are dark times. At least in the collectivist 70s there were glimmers of hope. I don't see any such hopeful signs today.

21 posted on 01/10/2007 12:59:10 PM PST by oblomov (Progress is precisely that which the rules and regulations did not foresee. - von Mises)
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