Michael Medved - Flushing Out Fear Mongers from Their Fever Swamps (FR Mentioned)

Town Hall ^ | 1-4-2006 | Michael Medved

[dennisw]

Okay, I give you points for being the ONLY other person on FR to know about the EVO. Some know about RAMPARTS, far fewer know of the BERKLEY BARB; however, nobody, not a single soul, has EVER known what I was talking about whenever I've posted about the EAST VILLAGE OTHER!

Used to read all three but the Barb was the worst and lowest. I was leftist, that's why I understand the left so well. "Politically correct" meant something else back then

[nopardons]

I was a Conservative, but was doing research on the enemy. Actually, I read the EVO more to know where NOT to be, or where to be, if I felt like protesting the damned, stinking protesters.

I only saw a few issues of the Barb, but I did read RAMPARTS often and I also read some of the other "local" underground rags. The EVO made THE VILLAGE VOICE look conservative, by comparison.

[fatima]

Are you pro life.

[dennisw]

Ramparts at least was a literate magazine. Yes the EVO was the bad boy version of the Village Voice. Used to read both

[nopardons]

Yes; why?

[nopardons]

Yes, it was; but it still made my blood boil!

I read the VV and the EVO, besides several other papers, back then. I lived in the Village ( the WEST VILLAGE; the then still NICE part ), at the time and saw the invading hordes up close and personal. Most of them were "weekend hippies" and wannabes; others were the serious scum who were their pied pipers.

[fatima]

First,i am not mad at you any more,2nd just checking.

[dennisw]

I never lived in "the Village" but used to visit often. Friends that lived there and for various events

[nopardons]

Oh, okay....

[nopardons]

I lived on Grove Street, just West of Sheridan Square.

My now husband lived on Jane Street, three bocks over, when we met and were courting.

After we were married, we moved a bit uptown, but still had friends who lived in the Village, so we would still go there to see them and to go to restaurants that we liked and such.

What time span are you talking about? I wonder if we were there at the same time, is all.

[dennisw]

About 66-67.

[ActionNewsBill]

I remember in '04 when John Edwards attended the CFR meeting several freepers speculated that it was only a matter of time before he was offered the VP nomination. I scoffed at them at the time, but then a few weeks later, was somewhat eerily surprised when it became official.

Actually, that was the Bilderberg conference.

Bilderberg 'performance' key to Edwards VP pick

You may recall that then Governor Clinton attended in 1991, and Hillary attended last year's conference in Canada.

[dennisw]

RI DIC U LUS

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Seems to me that today's leftists are mostly dimwitted, humorless, insipid, lethargic dolts compared to back then.

A Cindy Sheehan would not only not been a "leader" she would not have even registered on the public's senses.

And! in the past they could express themselves without the F-word.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Poor Dennis. Still allergic to facts.

[Paul Ross]

I really need to introduce you to the doctrine of "estoppel."

Perfectly familiar with it. The notion that there are issues needing to be addressed, simply means that we need an honorable party on the other side...and we wait until we get it. No honor on their side...no deal.

No amount of paper will suddenly transform an "agreement" with a dishonorable rat into a squeaky-clean one. The Reagan requirement of "Trust, but Verify" would be the place to start in establishing some degree of trust. Say we simply require "Automatic" retributions...to more or less correct...and swiftly...the "imperfections" (i.e., cheating) as discovered by our USTR. If these were put in place first, likely in a single page, and the other side agreed to it, we would have seen a step in the right direction as to establishing the "honor" on the other side.

China, for one, would never agree to a contract which had such a simple, and inarguable set of clauses.

[nopardons]

Same time period. :-)

[Pelham]

Say what you want about Medved, he doesn't shy from debate.

And that's why Michael invited Corsi to be on his program.

No- wait- nevermind.

[Pelham]

But there are some here, to whom facts just don't matter at all.

So true. I recall one who quoted a book on financial bubbles and managed to turn the author's argument on its head.

[Pelham]

You are a nutburger with cheese.

Now there's a substantive argument. The logic courses you took to earn a math degree must have been truly demanding.