Posted on 01/08/2007 1:42:34 PM PST by libertarianPA
Moderate, border-line liberal?
You're being to kind.
Sounds more like bordering SOCIALIST!
Why wait until they illegally enter from Mexico?
Why not just tax the crap out of Kalifornians and pay for ALL Mexican children, whether in Mexico City or San Diego?
Where's the compassion and concern "for the chilren"????
/semi-sarc
>I am not particularly against this proposal
LOL! Yeah, you and Karl Marx. - force the peasants into collectives. LOL!
> all Californians would be required to have insurance
Snort! Or what? What exactly will big brother do if you do not?
All of you thinking that this is creeping socialism are misguided. Communism is the correct term applied here.
We're paying for them now at ER rates. The choice was for us to keep paying a grand per flu case, or pay doctor's office rates. The dictators in black robes won't allow us the option of simply not paying for them.
Add doctors and hospitals to your list, 2 percent for the former, 4 percent for the latter.
My solution is that everyone in California must have insurance. If you cant afford it, the state will help you buy it, but you must be insured.I guess Californians woke up in Russia this morning. No doubt we here in the People's Republic of New York will find ourselves waking up there soon ourselves.
That question was asked at the news conference. The answer is, "enroll you". Obviously, the next question is 'what happens if you don't pay the bill'? No answer on that one yet.
Would you say that Workers Compensation is a commie idea? Employers are required to purchase workers compensation insurance, so why can't they be required to either pay a portion of health insurance or pay the state for medical insurance? The alternative is that the burden of all these uninsured people falls solely on the state and hence the taxpayer.
Right now my taxes are paying for all these uninsured patients that are crowding out and forcing shut all the emergency rooms. Federal law mandates that emergency rooms must treat everyone that comes in, so why should that burden fall solely on the taxpayers and hospitals? As long as medical care is mandated by the federal government, I think it is bad stewardship not to see that the burden imposed by that law is not spread out to businesses, individuals, insurance companies and the state.
That will undoubtedly be a welcome relief as right now they are carrying the brunt of the uninsured crisis by being defrauded by people with medical needs and no ability to pay. I'm sure they'd all trade 2 or 4 percent in exchange for a guaranteed payment from anyone they are required to treat.
Emergency Rooms are a very inefficient way to treat many patients. They're expensive to maintain and offer no preventative care. But the uninsured use them as their primary doctor. So you get a lot of crowding and folks with conditions that have gotten out of control, but could have been easily cured if caught earlier.
I recently dealt with a case where a young woman had no health insurance (but was honest enough not to attempt to defraud the system by using the emergency room under a false name). She caught pneumonia and didn't even know it. She thought she had a bad cold. She took over the counter cold medicine, which did nothing but hide some of her symptoms and aggravate her condition. She's dead now. Her young children will be a burden on the state for the next 15 years.
That's sad, but not as scary as stuff like Hep B through Z going untreated. A friend of mine recently got a letter in the mail stating that one of the food service employees who served him at an event had Hep B (I think it was B) and he should get checked out.
B) Insurers would no longer be allowed to deny coverage to people because of their medical problems.
Brilliant. That would be like not allowing home insurers to deny coverage to applicants AFTER their house has caught fire.
I was there, in California, when he was begging for votes. I distinctly remember him saying that he would make it EASIER for business to survive in California. What the hell?
All she needed to do was to go to urgent care. I don't care if the bill was $500. If your car broke down, wouldn't you go get the freaking thing fixed...beg, borrow or steal to have your vehicle back? it's too bad people don't feel their bodies are as important as their damn cars.
They understand their cars better than they understand their bodies.
It may seem like it sometimes, but it isn't the case. The Democrats wanted drivers licenses for illegals, and Arnold turned them down twice. They wanted to tax everything possible, and Arnold said no. Arnold has liberal points, but is far better than anything Angelides would have wrought.
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