Posted on 01/08/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37
You have no facts to back up your assertions in that post.
Don't be obtuse. The writer was spot-on. The blame for how someone votes is their own. No one was at the voting booth with a gun to their heads saying, "Vote Democrat to send a message to the Republicans you don't like, or die." Nope, the responsibility lies with the voter. Trying to blame someone else for how you voted is a form of liberal, Oprah-fied insanity. Tell me how "I didn't want to steal that money, but I am a victim of society" is any different from "I didn't want to vote Democrat, but I am a victim of the Republican society."
What do you disagree with?
Well, you may have a point, technically. There are many with the Republican label who never had any conservative principles to abandon.
Carolyn
Well, start with some proof that conservatives in any numbers that matter didn't vote.
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To all those on this thread who say "pick yourself up, and look forward, instead of whining." here is my suggestion. We have to learn the above sentence by heart, and we have to learn how to reach the reachable voter by speaking the "feelings" language. They do not hear or accept our logic and common sense arguments, so we have to talk "feelings"
Example:
Instead of "what do you think of illegal immigration, (or any variation of those words)
"how do you feel about out-of-state kids paying in-state university tuition?"
If they express disapproval, agree with them and then say "how do you feel about people visiting the US signing up for food stamps?" [This is the principle of using baby steps - don't use the example of illegals getting maternity care - no one can 'feel' good about refusing maternity care.]
If they say they feel that visitors should not be eligible for food stamps, you can say, "yeah, I feel the same way, I wish our govt. would improve the laws for making sure that everyone in the US is legally entitled to be here.
We want to be able to have a dialogue with Oprah and The View watchers, and they do not react well to 'thinking' questions. Feelings are deeper and more personal than thoughts, so will trump thoughts in many person's brains every time.
Names and principals please.
If these principals are Communists, they deserve being abandoned! On a desert island even. We can run our schools without them!
I voted Republican, and I'm upset with those Repblicans who stayed home, but I understand why they did. And I fear that the more we blame those "teach a lesson" conservatives, the more likely it is that our Republican leadership will do nothing to fix the problems of the party.
Agreed. The problem is the party leadership. We got rid of those clowns, but I despair that the new set of clowns isn't much better.
Why don't you present such evidence? All of the "conservative opinion makers" I know advocated for no such thing.
Now, you may find words from some disgruntled conservative somewhere, but your broadbrush assertion is a slander against conservatives.
Why do people like you, who obviously have such a deep distaste for conservatives, even post here?
You renounced being a Republican in 2005; therefore, you have no basis for calling anyone else a RINO. Feel free to petition Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid for your wishes, and leave the grownups alone.
Schwarzeneggar. Bloomberg. Giuliani. Romney. Pataki. McCain...et al.
Pick your conservative principle, these guys have come down on the side of the radical Left.
No, no, no.
Your "We" should just stick with common sense logic like this...
He wants Hillary to win! He wants Pelosi as speaker! He wants to turn it over to the Dems! I can't believe he said that! I've known he was a BircherBuchananiteDUTrollDemInfiltratorMobyStormfronter all along! Are you kidding me! Reagan hardly ever balanced the budget! Reagan didn't control the border! Reagan gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens too! You can bet Hillary won't control the borders or balance the budget!! You can bet Pelosi won't control the borders or balance the budget! We're at war! He's supporting the terrorists!! He wants to turn it all over to the Democrats!!! When campaigning, President Bush never said that he wanted absolute control of the border! He's unappeasable! What a malcontent!! He's a racistxenophobantihispanicnazibigot who hates Mexicans!!! He's a secret member of Stormfront!!! He's never been a real conservative!!! He hates Bush!! He wouldn't say any of this if he wasn't a Bush basher!!! He hates Republicans too!!! What does he want, for everyone to vote third party!!?!! Shut up, Go away!!! We don't need your support anyway!! We don't need the votes of the so-called "conservatives" that you're talking about because they're just a bunch of moronic, right-wing, extremist, fringe whacko, malcontent, unappeasable, fake conservative, democrat loving, stupid hicks who want Hillary for President and Pelosi for speaker!!! They probably never voted for Republicans in the first place! They're just Democrats trying to ruin our chances! The polls are lying!!! Look at their sign up date, anything after mine is suspect. The site has been infiltrated by BircherBuchananiteDUTrollDemInfiltratorMobyStormfronterracistxenophobantihispanicnazibigots and all they do is whine and bitchbithchbitchbitchbitch all the time.
It's sure to be winner. Next time.
Principles!!!!! (Better?)
"Can you explain how voting Republican in the last election would have made America a stronger and more prosperous nation?"
Sure. That's easy.
1. By maintaining GOP control in the Senate, the next judicial appointments (with one or two possible at SCOTUS) would not be in jeaprody of having liberal "compromise" appointments forced on the President. The affects of that loss of control in the Senate will be felt for 10, 15, 20 years; not simply the next two. And with two possible SCOTUS appointments, the "precendent" setting affect of rulings in the next 10 years will have ramifications far into the future.
2. The out-going GOP majority in the House was willing to force needed compromises on the imperial-Roman Senators on the issue of "immigration reform". That loss means we are likely to not only not get any compromises against the disasterous Senate bill, but we are now likely to get even worse provisions added to it from the new Dim House majority. Immigration errors, once implemented are harder to repeal than it is to pass the originating act. The previous generation of Kennedy-esque "immigration reforms" have led to the current immigration mess, while the new ones are even more disasterous and will greatly weaken the nation and increase the social-economic push for more and higher federal government entitlement programs.
3.The Dims plan to repeat, in Iraq, the treasonous 'defeat' policy they gave South Vietnam, will untether the United States from any meaningful role in the Middle East, as it did in Southeast Asia, leading to Cambodia style disasters in the Middle East and ascendancy of Iran with no counterweight in the region. Iraq will become worse than Afghanistan ever was and lead to possible joint Iranian-Turkish invasion of the Kurdish area of Iraq, with the Dim appeasing Congress doing nothing but holding the United States to no more than an observer on the sidelines. It will become a situation that neither Saudi Arabia or Israel can survive under without taking the offensive, which they will, and drag the US back in, with the effort requiring many times over what we have already invested in Iraq.
4.The present Dim majority will seek to "legalize" terrorists of all kinds, removing them from any "prisoner of war" status and turning all adjudication of terrorists and terrorist suspects to civil courts, public trials, release of secrets in order to "prosecute" or failure to prosecute in order to retain the secrets and thus jeaprodizing the war on terror at every turn. Add the courtroom circus to the "last helicopter from Baghdad" scene and you can figure 9/11 as firecracker demonstration of what will become of the Dims "brave new world".
People at my office are going to stare at me, since I'm standing on my chair and cheering out loud for your post.
Funny thing is .. the bragged about sending a message before the election
But now they are running at high speed and denying it
Assuming those above have NO conservative principles, you would vote for their Democrat opposition?
But now they are running at high speed and denying it
Exactly.
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