[relictele]

Don't be confused, Americans still make the best cars and trucks, they just work for Toyota and Honda.

And when their co-workers fail to report for work, show up drunk, sleep on the job or commit crimes they actually do something about it - no "union brotherhood" to worry about.

[Dixie Yooper]

I don't see how the big three are ever going to dig their way out of the hole they have put themselves into. Even if they solve the union problems, they still have to design a vehicle from the ground up with parts that are of quality,not made like the junk they currently use throughout their products. My first two BMW's, an 82 320i and an 89 325i had cloth, then vinyl seats. Both held up extremely well vs. the cloth and vinyl seats I had in my Chevys from the 70's. Even the knobs on the heater felt much better and lasted. By the time I finally got rid of my 78 El Camino, everything was falling apart. The headliner was coming down, the crushed velour seats were wore through, and the windows leaked. There were also numerous electronic problems and the engine. I sold to a guy I worked with for $300.