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Marlin's new levergun: .308 Marlin Express
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Posted on 01/07/2007 12:23:12 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: Vaquero
I think this one will too.
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posted on
01/07/2007 2:49:59 PM PST
by
headstamp
(Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
To: B4Ranch; All
Any idea on the price? According to my gun guy at PimaArms.com, blue about $525, ss lam $650
To: caveat emptor
Yes, in the Contender carbine and pistol and a 336 Marlin. Excellent brush round in the Marlin lever gun for eastern hunting deer and black bear and pigs out to say 150 or less.
Contender stretches out the range somewhat with the ability of pointed projectiles in a single shot action and loading it to a bit higher pressure than factory rounds.
If you reload, use the Remington factory 200 RN's, they are expressly made for the ballistics of this round in a lever gun. Only drawback is factory rounds are somewhat loaded down due to the Remington 8 and 81 autos still out there to work in the semi auto actions without breaking them.
JMHO FWIW
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posted on
01/07/2007 2:57:28 PM PST
by
headstamp
(Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
To: headstamp
You also have the Hornady Evolution ammo out there now I think for this round.
44
posted on
01/07/2007 3:01:44 PM PST
by
headstamp
(Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
To: Neil E. Wright
Kewl...thank you for the price :)
45
posted on
01/07/2007 3:01:52 PM PST
by
trussell
To: trussell
Here is at least one more. I hate to burst everyones bubble but this one come in Mag calibers too.
I think the Marlin will be a good rifle but it is not a new concept.
To: AnAmericanMother
Geez, what a beautiful Model 71! .348 Winchester, right? My dream gun for decades, with the factory swivels & sling, and bolt peep sight.
Had to make do with a Remington 760 in .308. Not bad, tho.
47
posted on
01/07/2007 3:29:13 PM PST
by
elcid1970
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To: elcid1970
It's my daddy's .348 (actually, that's not his, just one that was auctioned online recently - but it looks just like it, it's in prime condition).
He bought it for mama in 1954, they were going to hunt Kodiak bear in Alaska.
He was looking at a Holland & Holland in .375 for himself, then mama turned up pregnant with me.
Every so often, dad turns to me with a sorrowful look and asks, "Why couldn't you wait until I got the H&H?"
Why, indeed? Although reloading for it keeps us fully occupied. Thank goodness an outfit in Wisconsin is turning up new brass, it's hard to find brass now.
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posted on
01/07/2007 3:35:08 PM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: All
Not sure what it does that a properly loaded 30-30 marlin doesnt..
I AM going to get a 45-70 Marlin Guide Gun though..this year...
A friend wants me to come to alaska and hunt caribou with him, and I want to go if I can get past this back injury..I figure the Guide Gun is the way to go in AK hunting.
To: AnAmericanMother
Take a brown bear with a .348? I'd be more comfortable with the .375.
I have a classmate who hunts in Africa. Owns inherited fine double rifles. But his `bread & butter' rifle is a pre-64 Model 70 in .375 H&H. Works on everything up to and including buffalo. The `30-30' of Africa.
BTW, I fired his .375 with reduced `Cream of Wheat' loads, then full factory loads. Not that bad.
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posted on
01/07/2007 3:49:40 PM PST
by
elcid1970
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To: elcid1970
My mama couldn't shoot anything heavier. Even her dove gun is a 28 ga. (I have it now - it's an old Rem 11-48 and it's the best natural pointer ever. I shot skeet with it for years and routinely broke more than 20 - took it out after an 18 year layoff to shoot sporting clays, powdered everything close but ran out of momentum on the long ones. So I had to invest in an 1100 in 20 ga. . . . oh well.) < g >
Dad was going to do the business with the .375. And you're right, that's the bread and butter rifle in Africa, although it's too much for almost any North American game.
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posted on
01/07/2007 4:23:31 PM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: Abathar
Having to find the ammo at a local gun store for a bastard caliber can be a pain sometimes, having a .340 Weatherby Magnum taught me that.Gun nuts are always looking for something new. Rounds like the 30-30, .308, and 30-06 are sooooo old, boring, predictable....and effective, and they are always available at the ol' mom and pop country store.
If I ever take up deer hunting again, that new-fangled .260 Remington looks like the ultimate...but that boring old .308 or 30-06 will knock down anything on this continent, except for being a little iffy for Alaskan Browns.
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posted on
01/07/2007 5:34:26 PM PST
by
FlyVet
To: Abathar
I preferr the Marlin 1894 lever action carbine chambered to fire .357 mag or .38 cal pistol rounds. Make excellent campanion for the .38 or .357 revolvers. Ammo is plenty and cheaper. Good stopping power too.
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posted on
01/07/2007 5:34:47 PM PST
by
Fee
To: Fee
BTW, I fired his .375 with reduced `Cream of Wheat' loads, then full factory loads. Not that bad.Depends on your build. I weigh 150 lbs soaking wet. I have fired the .375, .458, and .416 Rigby. Each time, I handed said rifle back to the owner, then wiped the tears from my eyes. Freaking OUCH! 2oz 12 gauge turkey loads I found to be almost as painful.
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posted on
01/07/2007 5:41:46 PM PST
by
FlyVet
To: FlyVet
"BTW, I fired his .375 with reduced `Cream of Wheat' loads, then full factory loads. Not that bad." Reminds me of the time I took my then 10 year old son to the local range to fire our Ruger Old Army percussion cap & black powder revolvers...
Not wanting to fire more that 30 grains of powder at the 25 yd targets, we would use a volume trimmed nipple that dispensed just that amount - which only half filled the chamber -- so I elected to fill to the top with corn meal and then press the ball into the corn meal until the ball was below flush with top of cylinder. We would then wipe in a bit of grease.
Shooting two stations away from us was a nosy loudmouth that had already pissed me off by his excessive loud talking, rapid fire with junk guns, firing on the wrong targets - and I suspected he was under the influence of something other that good sense.
Well, he heard me ask my son to pass the corn meal to my station -- and uninvited, he approached me and watched me add the cornmeal to my chambers (AFTER THE BLACK POWDER HAD ALREADY BEEN LOADED)-- press the balls into place, install the caps and prepare to fire..
He asked me to confirm that I was really "using" corn meal in my pistol and I answered in the affirmative.
He then informed me that he didn't know that corn meal was an "explosive"....
Without explaining the error of his assumption - I simply said "watch this" -- and fired off 6 flaming and smoking black powder rounds...
He was SHOCKED.... he said he would immediately inform his wife to be a lot more careful with their corn meal!
Stupid bastards are everywhere -- be very afraid..
Semper Fi
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posted on
01/07/2007 7:23:51 PM PST
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: river rat
Heh heh. I happen to own a Ruger Old Army stainless myself, although I haven't shot it in a decade. You can fill that thing full of FFFg, forget the corn meal, seal it with Crisco or petroleum jelly and not worry about it.
Dang, I miss those days, and don't get into it that much anymore. Maybe some of us just mellow too much with age? :(
I'd like to find that fire again, River Rat. Maybe I will. Posts like yours bring back memories.
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posted on
01/07/2007 7:52:33 PM PST
by
FlyVet
To: river rat
he said he would immediately inform his wife to be a lot more careful with their corn meal!LOL
I understand if you use self-rising cornmeal that the gun shoots high.
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posted on
01/07/2007 7:53:13 PM PST
by
Vinnie
(You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
To: Beagle8U
35 Rem. and the 30-30 Win. are about the same in ballistics.
Depends on how much difference "about the same "
means to you.
In the early 50s, Marlin advertised this as the brush-busting .35, though today we know from exhaustive testing that virtually no bullet can go through heavy brush without being deflected. However, as an active deer hunter in my younger days, I noticed that the .35 seemed to take down white-tails with distinctly more authority than the more popular .30-30. Noted Henry M. Stebbins, one of the great rifle authorities during that period in American firearms history,
the 336 was not planned as a mountain rifle. Adding the .35 Rem to its lineup made it one of the best-liked rifles for those who want considerably more than .30-30 power, but not high velocity or flat trajectory.
To: headstamp
If you reload, use the Remington factory 200 RN's, they are expressly made for the ballistics of this round in a lever gun.
Thanks for the info. I'm not committed to the .35 Rem, but seems in the ball park for me, and if I can get the one that available locally at a good price, I'll go for it.
To: Vinnie
I have no experience with the .35 Rem. but what I've read says it's superior to the 30-30.
That seems to be
right:
No, the round that made a difference was Marlins second most popular in this rifle: caliber .35 Remington. Remington created this cartridge in 1906 for their then-revolutionary Model 8 semiautomatic hunting rifle, and in 1952, Marlin began chambering the Model 336 for it. Throwing a 200 grain soft point bullet at 2210 feet per second, it generated 2170 foot-pounds of energy. With a 170 grain bullet at about the same speed, the .30-30 comes up short by comparison with only 1860 foot-pounds of energy.
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