[Lexinom]

You said it all. Unfortunately, the people here are stuck in the 1970's, thinking Ronald Reagan is just around the corner. And he's not. The country has changed immensely in the past 30 years. There are some here who just don't want to admit it.

Or accept it. You are correct. There are some of us who are willing to admit we are held to absolute standards of right and wrong, every bit as ingraved on every heart as the Pythagorean theorem and Newtonian physics are ingrained in the ontology of the physical world. Were it not so, we would be like animals with no sense of justice nor any concept of culture, devoid of ultimate purpose.

There are others with no such moral moorings - or more precisely, a denial of the moral sense stamped on every heart. For them, the devolution of society into increasing decadance is touted as "progress". Thus they view those in the first group as unreasonably inflexible, not accounting for different epistomological starting points.

So you can see that the real root of the debate goes much deeper than politics, and is part of the epic struggle that has been waged since the beginning of history.

[Hildy]

what a bunch of crap.

[bannie]

You can't just sit by and refuse to participate if you find fault with all of the candidates. Sometimes you just have to vote for the best of the choices, or you'll get the worst.

[EternalVigilance]

Brilliant post.

[beyond the sea]

Were it not so, we would be like animals with no sense of justice

So, you assume all "animals" have no sense of justice, no sadness over the unfortunate plight or predicament of one of its own?

Very "human" of you.

Humans haven't a clue. (jmo)