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My Response to CAIR’s Misrepresentation of "Open Season"
House of the Ward ^ | Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:48 pm | Rich Ward

Posted on 01/07/2007 7:45:08 AM PST by dynoman

"As many of you know, the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has attacked Stuck Mojo by falsely claming that “Open Season” advocates violence against all Muslims. This is patently false. Any rational, unbiased person who reads the lyrics to the song (copied below) can clearly see that the song purely advocates a defensive posture against violent, global Jihadists.

You can read the full story at Little Green Footballs here:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23903_CAIR_Slams_Boxer_Stuck_Mojo#comments

The registration at LGF has been closed for some time. With that in mind would someone here on this board, who is also a member of LGF, please pass along my appreciation for the support that the LGF community has shown us."

More at link


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boxer; cair; extremist; islam; muslim; stuckmojo; trop; wot
Warning; There is some strong language at the link in the lyrics for "Open Season".

It is interesting this song is in the middle of the Boxer-CAIR-Basim Elkarra award fisaco.

There is another thread on the House of the Ward forum that is very interesting reading as some apoligists criticize "Open Season" and "Muslim Islamophobic" defenders. Then a poster called "starscream" absolutely shuts them down with one of the best online series of posts outlining Muslims in Hitler's Germany and the influence they had there and into our present day, namely one Amin Al Husseini.

This is the thread;

About "Open Season" from The Duke

It's 12 pages but well worth reading especially if you have never heard of Amin Al Husseini and his influence on militant Muslim groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qeida, Hamas, Islamic Jihad.

BTW The Duke sounds like an pretty interesting guy with his head screwed on straight, here is a post by him;

"Thank you for taking the time to post such a well written and respectful message. Like you, I disagree with anyone who would make great sweeping generalizations about people because of their skin color, place of origin, or their faith. You are obviously a wise and educated man who is passionate about making the world a better place. So, now that you have made a great case for the peaceful ways of 90% of Muslims, please help me to kill the 10% who are compelled to set the world on fire and then wash it in blood.

Respectfully, The guy who doesn't care if you worship a tomato, just stop f'n killing people in the name of fresh produce!

PS. If you need to borrow one, I have more guns than Charlton Heston."

Again a very interesting thread and well worth the time to read it. Intersting to see the debate in a rap music forum, proof the message is getting into all corners of this world. That gives me hope the tide of Islamic Extremism may be turned.

1 posted on 01/07/2007 7:45:11 AM PST by dynoman
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Remix of the video "Open Season" by StopCAIRNow;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA

2 posted on 01/07/2007 7:58:29 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
the peaceful ways of 90% of Muslims

This is the fraud perpetrated by the Religion of Peace crowd. There are no "peaceful" muslims. There is the 10 percent (a gross underestimate in my opinion) who kill; then there is the 90 percent who stand by and watch, then shrug their shoulders and go on with their business.

Their apathy is as much our enemy as the active savagery of the 10 percent.

Islam is an abomination that has historically proven itself incapable of living in peace with anyone, including its own adherents. The sooner we stop fighting this disease with half-measures and begin the process of excision, the sooner the world will be rid of these pests.

3 posted on 01/07/2007 8:03:01 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: dynoman
What did CAIR ever said about the Islamonazi death threat from Reuters sent to LGF?

Another "lone nut" who does not reflect upon Islam?

I do not advocate vigilantism and I am finding it deceitful of them to only ever play the victim role in threats of violence.
4 posted on 01/07/2007 8:10:45 AM PST by weegee ("Vote Obama - For More Ears!")
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To: dynoman

"advocates violence against all Muslims"

Has CAIR ever condemned Muslims who advocate violence against all non-Muslims? They've learned how to use the double standard almost as well as liberals.


5 posted on 01/07/2007 8:12:27 AM PST by Spok (Everything I need to know I learned from John Wayne movies.)
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To: IronJack

The peaceful ways of 90% of all muslims? You mean that billion to pray 5 times a day to Mecca but never denounce Mecca as a segregated city that denies entry to all muslims and never denounced Saudi Arabia as an Islamic state that does not permit the free exercise of religion and denies entry to Jews?

Islamic supremacists need to be denounced. Seems like the 90% of peaceful muslims DO shrug their shoulders.


6 posted on 01/07/2007 8:13:17 AM PST by weegee ("Vote Obama - For More Ears!")
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To: IronJack

I think there are peaceful Muslims, the first Muslim mosque in America was in Ross, ND It was built in the early 1900's. 99.9% of Americans don't know this because those were peaceful Muslims.

The real trouble as I see it is that the peaceful Muslims - whatever their percentage - are not the ones in control of Islam, the extremeists are. And the extremeist Muslims have a fatwa to support killing innocent peaceful Muslims as well as the rest of us. Until peaceful Muslims gain control of Islam they are just as threatened as any infidel. Additionally I don't think the peaceful Muslims have a will or a way to rein in the extremeist Muslims, that is why some Muslims support the west's WOT.


7 posted on 01/07/2007 8:18:33 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
The song ought to be our second national anthem.
8 posted on 01/07/2007 8:21:15 AM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: dynoman

the peaceful ways of 90% of Muslims

The peaceful muslims are sending money for murder through their charities


9 posted on 01/07/2007 8:24:34 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: dynoman

Awesome video. I'm in.

LBT
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10 posted on 01/07/2007 8:30:30 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: dynoman
The real trouble as I see it is that the peaceful Muslims - ... are not the ones in control of Islam, the extremeists are. And the extremeist Muslims have a fatwa to support killing innocent peaceful Muslims as well as the rest of us.

How can a 10-percent faction "control" anything without the co-operation -- or at least the acquiesence -- of the remaining 90 percent? As I said, the 90 percent who are sheep or passive cowards are just as much our enemies as the 10 percent who at least have the guts to frontally attack us (albeit "us" is women, children, blind nuns, and cripples).

Until peaceful Muslims gain control of Islam they are just as threatened as any infidel.

All the more reason for them to turn on the so-called extremists. But they don't. They cower in their mosques while their madmen preach hate and destruction, then walk away witnesses to the mayhem.

There's no way the extremist element could survive if the majority turned on them. But the fact is they furtively countenance the violence. Therefore, they are our enemies.

11 posted on 01/07/2007 8:33:47 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

"All the more reason for them to turn on the so-called extremists. But they don't. They cower in their mosques while their madmen preach hate and destruction, then walk away witnesses to the mayhem."

Well they are peaceful, in one sense of the word anyway.

;-)

I understand what you are saying though, but don't know the solution. It seems that "peaceful" Muslims have to start start policing their own ranks, or, as you say, turn on the extremeists. If they don't it will be nasty.


12 posted on 01/07/2007 8:48:28 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
and what does cair have to say about all the "lets kill the pig jew and infidel" videos on you tube /S

......still wating......

13 posted on 01/07/2007 9:16:34 AM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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I can't believe how CAIR can sell their line, must be a lot of shallow people out there.


14 posted on 01/07/2007 11:33:31 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: IronJack; weegee; Spok; Ukiapah Heep; tkathy; Charlespg
Here are more links to discussions at the band's web forum, interesting to read;

Unbelievable! CAIR Slams Barbara Boxer and Stuck Mojo

Rich Ward Responds to CAIR Attack on Stuck Mojo"

People Are Talking About "Open Season"

15 posted on 01/07/2007 11:52:29 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: IronJack

90% of them peaceful? Did you not make a typing error and really meant to say 0.9%, if that many?


16 posted on 01/07/2007 11:58:39 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: IronJack

"This is the fraud perpetrated by the Religion of Peace crowd. There are no "peaceful" muslims. There is the 10 percent (a gross underestimate in my opinion) who kill; then there is the 90 percent who stand by and watch, then shrug their shoulders and go on with their business."

Yes, and when one of the 10% is caught or killed, one of the 90% steps in to take the place. In other words, 10% active, 90% on the bench, waiting!!!


17 posted on 01/07/2007 12:46:36 PM PST by lawdude (2006: The election"s we will live to die for!)
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To: dynoman
would someone here on this board, who is also a member of LGF, please pass along my appreciation for the support that the LGF community has shown us.

Done.

18 posted on 01/07/2007 1:10:51 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87)
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To: dynoman
It seems that "peaceful" Muslims have to start start policing their own ranks, or, as you say, turn on the extremeists. If they don't it will be nasty.

It's going to be nasty. It already IS nasty. We can wait for the muslims to police their own, and we can wait for St. Swithin's Day. Or we can deal with this matter in the way we know we're ultimately going to HAVE to deal with it:

1) containment
2) conversion
3) extermination.

They wanted a fight. A fight they shall have.

19 posted on 01/07/2007 1:23:53 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
This is the fraud perpetrated by the Religion of Peace crowd. There are no "peaceful" muslims. There is the 10 percent (a gross underestimate in my opinion) who kill; then there is the 90 percent who stand by and watch, then shrug their shoulders and go on with their business.

No they don't.
A significant percentage of that 90% works as the financers, support and enablers of the "10%".

Nobody has the resources, the time or the lives it would take to pin down a real number.

20 posted on 01/07/2007 4:09:38 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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