Posted on 01/07/2007 7:00:20 AM PST by SLB
FYI. If Cannoneer No. 4 still has the Stryker ping list please bump with it.
My guess would be the Knox option would entail a swap - Stryker Bde for Knox, light bde in Hawaii. Of course also looming is the proposal to increase the size of the Army and add four brigade combat teams - they will have to go somewhere.
Is Knox still full of those "temporary" barracks built in the early 40's?
The IBCT facilities (barracks) will not be completed in time for the proposed move so the IBCT is heading to Ft Hood for a year. It would make sense for them to go to Hawaii and send the SBCT here to Knox as a trade. But when did the Army do anything that made sense? :-)
Nope, about 95% are gone.
The SBCTTSG (ChABN) ping list is on my About page. Cut & paste it anytime.
The decision to put a Stryker Bde in Hawaii never made sense to me in the first place. Even with the proposed increases in training areas, there will never be enough to support the brigade. Plus, you have very high shipping costs every time the brigade needs to deploy or go to the Mainland. But, it was a political decision, IMO.
Perhaps the Envirowackos are doing the Army a favor, providing an excuse to fix a mistake.
The unit is being transformed in Hawaii, but opposition from environmental and cultural groups has caused the Army to reconsider.
An environmental impact statement completed in 2004 determined Hawaii was a suitable location for the 5th Stryker Brigade Combat Team. The unit was scheduled to transform from the 2nd Brigade, 25th Infantry Division (Light).
Environmental impact statement! Excuse me?
I think I'm getting a headache now.
I've got it covered for Cannoneer. Pinging:
Stryker Brigade Combat Team Tactical Studies Group (Chairborne)
interesting. but not mentioned: were the two stryker soldiers related?
.
NEVER FORGET
The Words
http://www.Freerepublic.com/~ALOHARONNIE
The Pictures
http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm
The Heroism
http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361
NEVER FORGET
.
Bump
Just speaking for myself, I would welcome the move to Alaska - Ft Richardson. We could use the extra folks.
And we have a LOT of room.
Oh, and a lot of cold weather.
Well, room to train is one thing, and maybe they can only train a BN at a time, but the shipping thing makes perfect sense to me. I'm sure it cost plenty to ship my Stryker from Lewis to Kuwait. It also took a long time. Shipping from Hawaii would be that much faster/cheaper, I would imagine.
The other part that caught my eye here was the "must be deployable by November" line. That's only about 10 months from now. If these enviro-whackjobs and bureaucrats actually move them to Knox, you're talking probably about 3 or so of those 10 months gone, solely devoted to packing, moving, and resettling into a new permanent home station. So that leaves about 7 or so months to go from 60% transformed to fully deployable in-theater. Not a chance. CAN it be done? Sure. The Cav BDE that replaced my Stryker BDE in Mosul had only been stood up about 9 months prior. Were they nearly as good as my BDE who had combat vet NCOs and well-trained Soldiers (we had about an 18 month train-up)? Not even in the same league as us. So while it can be done, it is a really bad idea to try to rush that sort of thing. But what do I know? According to a lot of decision makers, rank and wisdom are directly proportional, which makes me very unwise...
Came back to FKKY from RVN in Oct 66 in the middle of a huge blizzard that shut down the place for a week. All the barracks burned high-sulfur coal, the stink of which hung in your nostrils until April.
If I want to get nostalgic about the good old USAARMC&S -- and I don't -- I need simply chug-a-lug a 40oz Ballantine Ale, wolf down a half-dozen hard-boiled eggs and wait for a giant fart. Oh, the memories that rush back! And that ain't all....
This is the part I don't get. Do the Strykers leak that much oil that they would contaminate the environment? They have been operating in Alaska, Fairbanks, without any noticeable environmental problem, and 60 below ought to bring any such problems to light if anything will.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.