Should Polish archbishop Stanislaw Wielgus step down?

Polish Radio ^ | Jan 06, 2007

[JoAnka]

A ping?

[GSlob]

Judas had enough decency to hang himself. Wielgus ought to do as much.

[Hieronymus]

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[kittymyrib]

When do we get to see the list of collaborators with the old USSR here in this country? Surely someone has the list. I don't expect the NYT to insist that the people have the right to know who was in bed with the Communists, because I'll bet a number of NYT writers were fellow travelers.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

What happened to Stanislaw in the title?

[T'wit]

Apologies hardly seem to be the point. It is Wielgus's beliefs that are at issue. How could a Catholic bishop be a Communist espionage agent? That's treason to his church as well as treason to his country. Of course it unfits him for church office.

[T'wit]

The font got indigestion. That "l" thing in his name is not an "l." A different character is needed, L with a slash through it, and it wasn't available. The letter is pronounced something like our "w."

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Appreciated.

[T'wit]

Here, this thingie: Tadeusz Gocłowski...

[null and void]

This? ł

[Paleo Conservative]

Step down? He should be excommunicated.

[JoAnka]

The thing is the Church really IS divided on this. That's the problem. And it will remain so, sadly. If he stepped down, things could calm down a bit.

[JoAnka]

The name spelled in Polish has a Polish letter in it instead of "l". It messed up.

[trisham]

When do we get to see the list of collaborators with the old USSR here in this country? Surely someone has the list. I don't expect the NYT to insist that the people have the right to know who was in bed with the Communists, because I'll bet a number of NYT writers were fellow travelers.

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Excellent observations.

[null and void]

FR doesn't support non-English fonts in thread titles.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Again, appreciated.

[T'wit]

>> I'll bet a number of NYT writers were fellow travelers.

Boy, is that an easy bet! :-) :-)

Walter Duranty comes to mind, except he wasn't a mere fellow traveller, he was a raging Stalinist. He got a pulitzer for covering up one of history's greatest crimes, Stalin's deliberate starvation of millions of peasants in Ukraine. Herbert Matthews helped put Castro in power, also by telling lies in the NYTimes. Some of today's Times team still are fellow travellers. For my two cents, you could start with the publisher and chairman of the board, Pinch Sulzberger.

[GSlob]

I couldn't care less about the church [being an atheist myself] . But I am an anticommunist [was born and grew up in the USSR of cursed memory before getting out], so my opinion is based on those grounds. The best [in the grand scheme of things] he could do would be not merely to step down, but to follow Judas to the letter, and hang himself from an ash tree. Are there any ash trees growing in Warsaw or its environs?

[PAR35]

How could a Catholic bishop be a Communist espionage agent? That's treason to his church as well as treason to his country. Of course it unfits him for church office.

Even if he is a retired communist spy, he is still a proven liar.

Every time I read about this guy, I think of Father Jerzy Popieluszko and wonder if he was involved in that murder. Anybody know what 'Archbishop' Wielgus was doing in 1984?