Posted on 01/06/2007 10:42:15 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Hear Hear. Here, Here. Couldn't agree more.
Ever shopped for a car, a new home, a sweater? Well. If a person doesn't have common sense they learn, when they are being sold anything they have a duty to use that common sense and also to do a bit of research. Only God is perfect. Welcome to reality.
man, that's brilliant.
"that's my mom on the phone. I'll put it on speaker."
I understand what you are saying but it is possible to sell without lying or bending the truth. Its called integrity.
Just how stupid do you have to be this day in age, not to think that if you joing the military you are going to wind up going into some sort of combat situation?
On a cruise ship vacation over the holidays I was forced to get all my news from CNN. It was painful. They constantly repeat the death toll of 3,000 yet neglect to mention the 4 year period it covers. During this same time 180,000 Americans died in car wrecks, but no mention of that senseless loss on CNN every few minutes. The soldiers died for their country vs. died on their way to buy groceries.
I wonder why CNN has a lock on the airports, cruise ships, and other captive audiences. CNN is too anti-American, too depressing, too envy-filled, too biased to force on people trying to enjoy a vacation. Isn't it well known that twice as many people prefer Fox News over CNN?
Do some recriuters lie? Yeah. It's a high-stress job (I know a bunch of them). Generally, the more successful ones will not, just like the best car salesman does not jam you into a car you don't want. The one who might give in to the temptation to lie is the one who is struggling or overwhelmed.
Recruiters are very closely monitored by their leaders (who are also, I must say, the source of that relentless pressure).
Anyone who can recruit for the five military services can sell any good product. Cause that's what he is, a salesman.
My recruiter back in the seventies was completely honest (it was a woman, which was my first of a career of surprises). Even things where I thought whe was blowing smoke ("If you go to language school, it's in Monterey, and you'll have more time off than you did in college") she was absolutely correct. I always thought that many of the "my recruiter lied to me" bunch were not paying attention when they talked to their recruiters -- never a good idea.
Bare in mind that the recruiter has quotas not just for the service in general, but for specific kinds of recruits. If you're not feeling lots of love from your recruiter, it might be that you're in a group where his quota's full for the month, and he needs to get a Mental Category I or female recruit more than he needs a Cat II male right now, so he's off tilting at that windmill instead of calling you back. (The Mental Categories are based on the quintiles of those that take the ASVAB. V and IV are generally not taken by any service, that corresponds to the lowest 30% of society mentally, basically below an 80-85 IQ or so).
By the way, every service has at least one famous hero who tried to join another service and was turned down or found the recruiter he wanted out of the office. Recruiters who share a building with other services are not always punctilious about poaching their buddy's recruits.
But there's another question here: does CNN, and does Military Times, tilt against the troops? Oh yeah, big-time. Military Times Publishing Co. was a huge troop supporter until it was bought by Gannett (think USA Today, McPaper) and did an immediate 180 in editorial policy. I don't even get it for the promotion lists any more... if some old buddy comes up on the colonels or command sergeants major list, I'll get a phone call soon enough.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
I don't doubt at all the intentions of CNN in running that segment right now.
Remember, the week or so right up to the election in November, they ran a series nightly about the "Broken Government"...which is an OPINION not a fact...but, I betcha it swayed some ignorant viewers that tend to watch CNN!!
How they can get away with that is beyond me...and then of course showing the snuff videos of our troops and now this.
I do think we can offically name them the Anti-Military Station...and MSNBC the BDS NETWORK.
Real journalism--we haven't had much of it for so long we forget what learning new information can be like. Thanks!
True. I've noticed that many an Army Times gets tossed quickly these days. Gannett leans hard left.
What we already know.
When it comes to lying and distorting the truth, CNN holds the crown of deceit.
Can you imagine anything like this being published in any other U.S. war? I mean, in something other than a Communist propaganda sheet? This country has become so inculcated with the idea that Uncle Sam is evil, and it's the U.S. that can't be trusted, so that something like this can be broadcast by CNN.
There was a columnist for our local paper who addressed a column to parents, saying that they should refuse to let their children enlist.
Makes one wonder how many fronts are being fought presently in this age of stealth.
CNN makes it appear as the the military is made up of 49% attorneys, 50% journalists and 1% combat ready soldiers.
That recruiters 'lied to me' is the most common thing you hear in the Army. It's pretty much a universal euphemism. Recruiters telling kids 'you can sign up for airborne (or Ranger school) once you get to basic training'. Recruiters guaranteeing kids they'll wind up in the 82d. Hey, it's normal. We always laughed about it. The only thing lower than the recruiter is the Military Police. I knew guys who wouldn't even wear their recruiter patch once they earned it unless they were made to.
What's the big deal?
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