[Alter Kaker]

As stated earlier, how many of these countries have 12 - 20 million illegal aliens in the USA?

Not one illegal alien will receive social security from the United States government, certainly not because of this totalization agreement. Find a new strawman.

[ECM]

You don't get it, do you? This is part and parcel of an overall amnesty plan--they *will* get this when Bush and co. force through their amnesty plan (if you'd been paying attention you'd have noticed that it hasn't gone into effect yet...wonder why that is, eh?)

[BW2221]

"Not one illegal alien will receive social security from the United States government, certainly not because of this totalization agreement." If you believe this, you're even more delusional than I first thought.

There have been numerous stories recently about how illegal aliens not only will receive Social Security after amnesty, but even will be able to claim any payments maid by using fraudulent Social Security numbers.

I just love Open Borders Lobbyists like you; you get cheap labor and our children clean up the mess.

[rottndog]

Not one illegal alien will receive social security from the United States government, certainly not because of this totalization agreement. Find a new strawman.

Really?

Social Security fraud is a felony. Identity theft (which occurs when an illegal alien uses a stolen social security number) is also a felony. Both are FEDERAL FELONIES. The feds know of millions of stolen SS#s being used in workplaces around the country and are doing virtually nothing to stop it. Why should they be believed when they say they won't pay illegals benefits?

[WayneM]

You are most likely correct.

They will have been given amnesty and will no longer be considered illegal at this point.