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Brownback to Move on Presidential Bid (Will Announce Jan 20)
Earthlink ^ | 5 Jan 07 | Liz Sidoti

Posted on 01/05/2007 5:01:39 PM PST by xzins

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To: MSF BU
One thing I do know is that he's despised by the Sodomy Lobby.

Now that's a good sign. I always like to know who the candidate's enemies are. Tells you a lot.

101 posted on 01/06/2007 6:47:54 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

More on Duncan Hunter from Fred Barnes an you tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-KcaNIgJzg


102 posted on 01/07/2007 2:02:57 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: xzins

Having read that you said that the American Conservative Union (ACU) recorded a perfect voting score of 100% for Senator Sam Brownback, I went to the ACU website to check this information, and it is true that for the year 2005, Sam Brownback is among the 10 “Best and Brightest” Standout Senators, according to the ACU (see http://www.conservative.org/archive2/senate.asp). This should make clear that Sam Brownback is from the “Conservative Persuasion”.

However, because of Sam Brownback’s position about immigration, I am not sure that Sam Brownback’s score in 2006 got a 100% favorable rate by the ACU, because, on March 28, the ACU said: “The immigration bill produced yesterday by the Senate Judiciary Committee can in no way be viewed as positive reform. On the contrary, the bill essentially provides for a sweeping amnesty program for the 11 million-plus illegal aliens already in the United States.” […] “The ACU applauded Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Jon Kyl (R-AZ), Jeff Sessions (R-AL) John Cornyn (R-TX) and Tom Coburn (R-Oklahoma), all of whom refused to allow misplaced compassion to excuse criminality.” (see: http://www.conservative.org/pressroom/2006/060328pr.asp). Please note carefully that the ACU did not say that these senators have no compassion at all, but that they do not have “misplaced compassion”.

Because Senator Sam Brownback is a Compassionate Conservative, a number of people may believe that Sam Brownback seems to have this type of “misplaced compassion” towards immigrants. However, one may wonder whether this is a true perception of Sam Brownback’s position or rather a misperception of his real position. It seems to me that if Sam Brownback wants to get the vote of the Conservatives, he needs to make an effort to make more clearly known that he is in favor of strengthening the borders (construction of a good fence in the Southwest, enforcement of the immigration laws, etc.). And he should supply a satisfactory explanation about his position concerning the millions of illegal aliens who are presently in the United States. Sam Brownback did vote for the fence, but many people may not be very sure how strong he is on this point. On the other hand, his “compassionate side” and his desire to work with other senators to find a comprehensive solution about the millions of immigrants, have led many to believe that Sam Brownback is definitely in favor of an “open borders / amnesty” policy. As long as this is what many people understand about his position, Sam Brownback will have great difficulties to win the presidential primaries and the general elections. The Democrats are usually more consistent with their liberal agenda than Sam Brownback may appear to be concerning immigration. Sam Brownback needs not only to show that he wants to treat with dignity everyone (including immigrants – legal or illegal), and to find a constructive solution concerning the millions of illegal immigrants, but also he needs to dispel the impression that his compassionate attitude may lead him to reward the criminal behavior of illegal immigrants by granting them a “free-pass” (i.e. an easy participation in a Guest-Worker Program that will help them to become American Citizens).

There is no doubt that it is not easy to find a good balanced view on such a subject: too much “compassion” and Sam Brownback may look a “softy” or a compromiser on immigration. Too much “justice” (strongly enforcing the laws against illegal immigration), and Sam Brownback may look a “heartless/narrow-minded far-right conservative”, desiring to promote the sending of “Gestapo forces” to crack down on illegal immigration. Compassion and Justice together must “balance” the equation. Addressing adequately this situation is easy neither for Sam Brownback nor for anybody else, if a good and fair solution is to be found. We must also realize that Sam Brownback cannot please everybody (whatever he may say or do about this matter). When we consider the other choices that we may have for the presidential elections of 2008, I believe that Sam Brownback remains an option worthy of consideration for Conservatives.


103 posted on 01/08/2007 8:02:49 AM PST by BplusK
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I have a hierarchy of current issues.

1. Life it the single most important issue. Period. All else is insignificant if you, your children, or your elders can be killed.

2. The War on Terror, and the campaign in Iraq are extremely significant. If we do not resolve this, then we are telling families of our deceased and injured heros that their loved ones' sacrifices were never important in the first place. In other words we're tellling them that their loved one's life was wasted.

Also, we tell terrorists and the world that we are totally unreliable and defeatable by simple perseverence.

3. Homeland Security Issues: Coast and Border control is critical to a secure America and is an extended part of the War on Terror. Illegal immigration would fall into this category.

4. Strict Constructionist Judiciary.


I will vote for a pro-lifer who is wrong on homeland security before I will vote for an anti-lifer who is right on homeland security.


104 posted on 01/08/2007 12:33:55 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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I fully agree with your priorities (1. pro-life, 2. war on terror, 3. homeland security, 4. Strict Constructionist Judiciary). And I think that Sam Brownback is very strong on all these current issues. There is no doubt about this.

The only issue that is somewhat difficult to deal with is the question of immigration. Here we need to make a distinction between three types of immigrants:
- 1. Legal Immigrants (people from other countries who come to the United States with an official Visa).
- 2. Illegal Immigrants (people who come to the USA without proper documentation, or who stay in the US once their Visa is expired).
- 3. Terrorist/Criminal Immigrants (people who come legally or illegally to harm us and/or to implement criminal activities).

I think that everyone should agree to treat with dignity and compassion the Legal Immigrants (First Category) and to strongly oppose the Terrorist/Criminal Immigrants (Third Category). There is no doubt that Sam Brownback is 100% in agreement with this: we must kindly welcome the Legal Immigrants (those who have gone through the official process), and fiercely fight against the Terrorist/Criminal Immigrants (those who have evil intentions).

The difficulty comes when we are considering poor people who could not find a job in their own country (Mexico, Nigeria, etc.) and who came illegally to the United States to make a living so that they can support their families. What should we do with this type of people? Deport all of them? … or offer them Amnesty and Green Cards? Here, Sam Brownback tries to be Compassionate and Conservative. Finding a good balance between these two perspectives is easy for nobody. This is why Sam Brownback is in favor of more controls at the borders, but he wants to find constructive and fair solutions for this type of immigrants.


105 posted on 01/08/2007 2:57:05 PM PST by BplusK
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To: MountainFlower

Now Brownback is granting amnesty AND standing with the cut and run dems. Yep, sure sounds like presidential material to me.(sarc) in case you hadn't guessed.


106 posted on 01/10/2007 7:46:23 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: freeangel

i will pass along your regards, and stand firm. information out there isn't always what it seems to be.


107 posted on 01/10/2007 11:28:04 PM PST by MountainFlower (Brownback, Brownback, He's Our Man!!)
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