To: RobbyS
I wonder, do you know when the human spirit takes up residence with the alive embryo or fetal aged human organism? [Note please, I'm not asking about the soul of life, I am asking about the human spirit.] Do you know who might know the answer to this?
30 posted on
01/04/2007 7:17:47 PM PST by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
To: MHGinTN
Depends of how you see the relation between spirit and flesh. Platonists and other idealists seem to think of the person as inhabiting the body. Realists, like Aristotle think of it as the form of the body and the two as inseparable. Immortality of the soul is a platonic nation, and was denied by Aristotle and most realists. A doctrine most firmly established in orthodox Christianity is the resurrection of the body, which is most compatible with realism, as it treats the soul and body as complimentary and that a disembodied soul would therefore be incomplete until it was in some fashion rejoined with it,
to become very like the man Jesus.
32 posted on
01/04/2007 7:33:40 PM PST by
RobbyS
( CHI)
To: MHGinTN
I wonder, do you know when the human spirit takes up residence with the alive embryo or fetal aged human organism? [Note please, I'm not asking about the soul of life, I am asking about the human spirit.] Do you know who might know the answer to this? What difference does it make when the human *spirit* enters a body? If it's alive and it's human, then killing it is murder, regardless of when someone thinks a spirit or sould takes up residence.
44 posted on
01/04/2007 9:38:59 PM PST by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: MHGinTN
The Vedas state that the soul enters the embryo with the sperm; the sperm actually carries the soul into the egg.
164 posted on
01/05/2007 3:20:31 PM PST by
little jeremiah
(Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
To: MHGinTN
Is not the
spirit the intellect of the soul? As we are told in Luke regarding the conception of Christ, John while 6 months in the womb leaped in acknowledgment of the Holy Spirit.
While the brain is the intellect of the flesh body, as described in the creation/formation of the Adam in Genesis, Adam was not 'alive' until the breath of life = soul was breathed into his nostrils. So with what we are told about John in the womb able to sense the Holy Spirit now dwelling within the soul of Christ just conceived. That seems to indicate that the soul is always with the spirit, the intellect of the soul, at least that is how I understand the same but separate entities.
Paul also describes how that before they were ever born having done good or evil that God loved Jacob and Esau he hated. Now that tells me that the soul/spirit has a history before the soul/spirit is placed into flesh at conception.
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