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When Does Life Begin?
Columbia ^ | William Ryan

Posted on 01/04/2007 5:51:39 PM PST by Coleus

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To: tlRCta; RKBA Democrat; fedupjohn; Warthogtjm; markomalley; lneuser; Coleus; ArrogantBustard; ...

Please FReepmail me if you'd like to be added to or removed from the KofC ping list.

41 posted on 01/04/2007 8:23:08 PM PST by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: WKB; wagglebee; little jeremiah

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42 posted on 01/04/2007 9:25:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coleus

The only possible reason for the whole argument to even come up is because if it's not a *person* then killing it is not murder. Therefore, one can do what one wants to that embryo with a *clear* conscience and no fear of moral or ethical consequences. Then it opens the door for abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and all manner of other evils done against a human being in the name of science and progress.


43 posted on 01/04/2007 9:35:39 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MHGinTN
I wonder, do you know when the human spirit takes up residence with the alive embryo or fetal aged human organism? [Note please, I'm not asking about the soul of life, I am asking about the human spirit.] Do you know who might know the answer to this?

What difference does it make when the human *spirit* enters a body? If it's alive and it's human, then killing it is murder, regardless of when someone thinks a spirit or sould takes up residence.

44 posted on 01/04/2007 9:38:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Busy lately, isn't it!

Will read/pingout tomorrow, thanks! (If wag doesn't get to it first...)


45 posted on 01/04/2007 9:42:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: MHGinTN

I think it depends on what you mean by soul. I think you are a plantonist.


46 posted on 01/05/2007 4:48:20 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Pro-choice advocates live in a Lewis Carrol world.


47 posted on 01/05/2007 4:51:29 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: metmom; tutstar; del4hope; duckbutt; Fiddlstix; somniferum; WKUHilltopper; kimmie7; ...
Baptist ping

Jer. 1:4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying,
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
48 posted on 01/05/2007 5:12:23 AM PST by WKB (Rudy V Hillary= There is no lessor of two liberals.)
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To: Pure Country
"If you have to kill it to get rid of it, then it must be alive." THAT.....is brilliant.
49 posted on 01/05/2007 5:20:54 AM PST by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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To: msnimje
The more I think about the more I realize how stupid this question really is.

*************

You're quite right.

50 posted on 01/05/2007 7:15:27 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ml/nj
But the children struggled in her womb

Children?! They're not children, they're embryos!

/sarcasm

51 posted on 01/05/2007 7:19:18 AM PST by al_c
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To: Coleus
When Does Life Begin?

A Catholic priest, an Episcopalian minister, and a rabbi are all asked this question.

The priest says, "Clearly, at the moment of conception, we have a viable human being. So life begins at conception."

The minister says, "No, it's not a human being until it's born. Like begins once we're outside the womb!"

Finally, the rabbi says, "You're both wrong! Life begins when the kids move out and all the pets die!!"

52 posted on 01/05/2007 7:26:23 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Coleus

Easy question - human life begins at conception.


53 posted on 01/05/2007 7:30:21 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: al_c
Actually it's habahnim which is really "the boys."

ML/NJ

54 posted on 01/05/2007 7:36:44 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Coleus

Wonderful read, thank you. It's unfortunate that, despite Dr. Lejeune's impeccable credentials, most pro-aborts will dismiss everything he has to say because he's a Catholic.


55 posted on 01/05/2007 7:37:56 AM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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To: Coleus

At 40, or so everyone keeps tellin' me. But I'm still waiting...


56 posted on 01/05/2007 7:39:30 AM PST by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: Coleus

Sperms are alive.


57 posted on 01/05/2007 7:40:47 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: metmom

--If it's alive and it's human,--

One cell is NOT a human.


58 posted on 01/05/2007 7:43:40 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: Popman

1000% correct.
It's a human life at the moment of conception. Just as it is a dog, whale or elephant at the moment of conception. Human beings make human beings- nothing else. No human ever has been pregnant with anything other than a human baby.
If there is NO life at two days, or two weeks, or two months-why is it necessary to kill it?
A baby in the womb is not a tumor. Tumors/tissue masses do not have hearts that stop.
Call it murder for convenience- but one can't claim the right to kill that which isn't alive.


59 posted on 01/05/2007 7:44:20 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Coleus

When does life begin?

I've said it before. If either Mars rover had happened upon a minute-old fetus, the scientific community would have claimed life had been discovered on Mars.

Seems like that should answer that question.


60 posted on 01/05/2007 7:46:54 AM PST by GreenAccord (Alright, everyone. Rotate your tagline)
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