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To: brytlea
You know, I don't know a single real person who isn't fed up with illegal immigration, and this includes liberals and conservatives. It's odd that I see so many defend it on the internet and in the media.....

You know what brytlea you remind me of the wealthy woman New Yorker who made the famous quote after the 1972 landslide by Nixon of "I don't know how Nixon won, I didn't know anybody who voted for him".

It is obvious that you are somewhat isolated, given the fact that pelosi & co. took over the House and such immigration hardliners and who made immigration a central theme of their campaigns and publicity lost such as Hayworth and Hostettler.

190 posted on 01/05/2007 2:23:47 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

You know what it says about you when you assume things, Dane... ;)
I know alot of very liberal democrats and I am sure they voted for Democrats (I live in S. FL, what can I say!) and every one who has expressed an opinion on the subject is VERY concerned about illegal immigration. Some also appear to be concerned about immigration in general, however they are quite vocal about wanting illegal immigration to stop.
If you believe that the election was simply about illegal immigration go ahead. But there were many other issues. And, the bottom line is, I already know what you think. I don't know why you have the view on illegal immigration that you do, but it's clear that you have an agenda.
Have a happy new year.
susie


227 posted on 01/05/2007 9:42:24 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Dane
immigration hardliners and who made immigration a central theme of their campaigns and publicity lost such as Hayworth and Hostettler.

J D Hayworths opponent ran to the right of him on immigration and pledged to do more to stop illegal immigration that Hayworth did.

Seth Scott, Mitchell's campaign spokesman, e-mailed us a response:

"This is classic J.D. Hayworth - manufacturing outrage in a desperate attempt to distract attention away from his 12-year record of failure on immigration, his voting record in support of amnesty for illegal immigrants, and the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's received from the people who covered up for Mark Foley.

"To set the record straight, this TV spot is called 'Focus,' and the image in question is a camera lens 'focusing' on Hayworth. It's important to note that as the camera lens image is on the screen, so is the word 'focus' - as in, J.D. was identified as a 'focus' of the Justice Department's investigation into the Jack Abramoff corruption scandal. If J.D. doesn't like reports that he's the 'focus' of a Justice Department investigation, perhaps he should have 'focused' his attention on something other than lining his pockets and household's income with gifts and cash from a convicted felon.

"Finally, J.D.'s manufactured outrage is conveniently timed and highly dubious as this spot has been on the air since Sept. 22 and J.D. didn't start whining about it until Oct. 4 - the same day it was reported that Harry Mitchell is ahead in the latest poll."

Scott's answer touches on a couple of the Mitchell campaign's current themes: the Abramoff lobbyist corruption scandal and trying to out-Hayworth Hayworth on immigration. In fact, Mitchell has a new negative TV spot on immigration in which a narrator accuses Hayworth of voting for "amnesty" and failing the border and says "Don't believe J.D.'s lies" about immigration. (Hayworth has written a book about border security titled Whatever It Takes and taken a tough stance against illegal immigration.)

The new ad claims Mitchell "will lead the fight against amnesty, opposes Social Security for illegals, and he supports English as our official language."

Mitchell aimed the "amnesty" accusation against Hayworth last month.

From a Sept. 25 Mitchell campaign release:

In 1998, Hayworth voted to grant amnesty for thousands of illegal immigrants under the Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act (HRIFA) of 1998.

HRIFA allowed thousands of Haitians nationals who had been illegally residing in the United States to become lawful, permanent residents of the United States. [Source: Vote no. 538, HR 4328, Oct. 20, 1998; U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, “Immigration through the Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act (HRIFA) of 1998”]

Still trying to spread your lies Dane. You're a pathetic individual.

242 posted on 01/05/2007 2:07:35 PM PST by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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