Posted on 01/04/2007 9:31:34 AM PST by hocndoc
Is Pat Robertson a liar when he says that he has talked to God?
Will read/pingout tomorrow.
People need to know what their plans and goals are.
Thus a Nobel Prize–winner in genetics, Richard Dawkins, tells us what he doesn’t know. We are as persons, he says, only "lumbering robots" whose genes have "created us body and mind." There lies hidden in this direct quote, however, a royal we: Dawkins does not assume himself thus described. Rather he stands at a transcendent point, above both genes and body and mind, in a presumption of containing by his pronouncement an absolute comprehension of the nature of man. Thus he becomes an excellent illustration of what I shall call the provincial mind. Alas, his is an intellectual malady conspicuous among our intelligentsia: the modernist mind presuming intellectual autonomy beyond limit.
Marion Montgomery
novelist, poet and critic
There happened to be a nice discussion of that over on Darwin Central...
IIRC, one of the posters pointed out that the ice helix formed at -9 Farenheit and 40,000 atmospheres.
Too warm and too crowed for space.
...oh, and the ice was encased within carbon nanotubes.
Smells like polywater, redux.
Cheers!
Muslims has always stated it all is the will of Allah(whatever)..
Gnostism.. "fatalism".. and other gnostic qualia..
There has been many gnostic variations in history..
Some them are even christian.. and Jewish..
But Christians don't worry about such things; evidently, only atheists do.
Atheists never seem to concern themselves with the cause of physical causation. They take geometry (space/time) as a "given." I find that amusing...
Fill memory cells with code (setting bits on/off) which
in turn can modify their OWN instructions.
Does this concept qualify that a designer can design
complexity. Nature doesn't design 747's but man does.
So why wouldn't GOD design the brain?
"Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."Rationally we may conclude from this and many other evidences that we do not yet see and experience God's Will being done on earth as it already is being done in Heaven. That's my conclusion anyway. It is not that the Great and Glorious Creator does not know of or superintend over all that transpires, as if anything could take God by surprise, but rather that in His Overarching Plan we do not yet see all things brought under His Dominion and Righteousness.
~Matthew 6:10
But we will!
Good one. Problem is, I see many "Christians" doing this as well - trying to put our Glorious God and Savior into neat little man-made boxes, titled and labeled, categorized, all-defined and sorted (-out). God have mercy.
His Name Is Wonderful! How I praise Him!
What you said!
I've got to agree with this statement. Raising children this way amounts to brainwashing. Real life ends up trumping this kind of upbringing and ends up exposing 'children' to the realities of this world. The child ought to be told by his parents that his parents are raising him up in a way that they BELIEVE is right, not that they KNOW is right. Children ought to be told/made aware of the fact of the world as it exists...not just as part of some kind of fantasy myth.
Yet, the axiomatic state of procreant mammalian biology effortlessly defeats them every time, as do their own arguments about genetics.
Make no mistake about it, all this blather has a hidden homosexual agenda, it is their ultimate goal in the refutation of Genesis.
Yes: male + female = baby.
This is what these types of people really hate.
They are specifically attacking the Christians, but Moses wasn't a Christian. Christians are their politically correct proxy because they cannot openly attack the Jews. They, like the National Socialists, are at war with the book of Genesis more than anything else.
He can't get beyond the title of his book without contradicting himself. In a universe reduced to matter in motion, a true self cannot exist. At best, the self must be an illusion, but even this illusion must reduce to matter in motion, etc., ad infinitum. Without a self, there exists nothing to be selfish.
I understand that you don't understand.
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In light of my comment, please explain to me what I do not understand about Dawkins argument.
He is attempting to bring God into an arena that makes statements about Him accessible to scientific study. That would make of God an aspect of creation.
How is this not so? If it is so then how is my claim that God is not accessible in the universe false?
Is Pat Robertson a liar when he says that he has talked to God?
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I have talked to God. Does that make me a liar?
*"Dawkins not only thinks religion is unalloyed nonsense but that it is an overwhelmingly pernicious, even "very evil," force..."*
Exactly. C.S. Lewis addressed this right off the bat in Chapter 1 of Mere Christianity. Once you introduce the concept of "right and wrong" or "good and evil" you have introduced a "something else" into the universe, like rules of game that both parties acknowledge are in existence. Sure, the parties may quarrel as to whether one side or the other adhered to "the rules," but they acknowledge the existence of the rules nonetheless.
And just what has God told you that was new? Which God did you talk to?
--I have talked to God. Does that make me a liar?--
Did God talk back to you?
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