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New amnesty push likely in 07 by Bush, Dems
Marietta Daily Journal ^ | Wednesday, January 3 | D.A. King

Posted on 01/04/2007 5:32:40 AM PST by Mount Athos

Five years into the war on terror, most Americans desperately hoped 2006 would be "the year" for solutions to the long national nightmare of intentionally unsecured borders and the resulting illegal immigration crisis. For many, the dream was that at a minimum, we would begin to see border security and immigration law enforcement similar to what Mexicans still living in Mexico enjoy. It didn't happen.

According to a report released in late 2006 by the House Committee of Homeland Security, up to 10 million people entered the United States illegally and un-inspected last year. Georgia watched as its population of illegal aliens increased by 114 percent - the highest rate of growth in the nation.

Now, 2007 is being touted as "the year." The word in Washington all over the country is that "comprehensive reform" - a repeat of the 1986 "one-time" path to citizenship for illegal aliens who come mostly from Mexico - must happen before official campaigning begins for the 2008 elections.

Happy New Year!

It seems that the party taking power in Congress is more in line with the president's ideas on how to treat the resentful illegals and the vast black market labor-addicted employers.

Even as it became clear on election night in November that the Democrats were taking over the House, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow remarked that the election results presented "interesting opportunities" for "comprehensive immigration reform."

For something that the "do-nothing" Congress accomplished, I point to stopping the McCain/Kennedy/Bush amnesty of 2006. To the GOP House: Gracias.

The solution to the illegal immigration problem coming from Washington can be boiled down to this: Make everybody "legal." Give them - again - the path to citizenship they demand, and whatever you do, don't mention the "A" word. The present voters are on to the amnesty swindle, but hold on, we have millions of potential new voters right in front of us!

Happy New Year!

"They might be unlawful aliens but otherwise lawful citizens," was how U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales described the millions of identity and wage-stealing illegal aliens in remarks during his Senate confirmation hearings in January. Happy New Year!

Having happily endorsed the re-writing and translating of the American national anthem, in the spring of 2006, millions of screaming illegals marched in America waving the flag of Mexico in a demand for "dignity," "justice" and amnesty for all. In Chicago, about 75,000 marching illegals were led by U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez.

"This is our country and we are not leaving!" was Gutierrez's rallying cry.

Gutierrez is busy now helping write the House version of "comprehensive immigration reform." Happy New Year!

Imagine the headlines of "intolerance and racism" if Americans were to march by the millions in a demand for secure borders and requiring that illegals be punished along with their employers.

An effort to preserving the common language of our grandfathers, laws making English our official language were angrily ridiculed as "racist" by - among many - U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, (D-Nev.).

Does anyone remember the outrage of 1999 when El Cenizo, Texas, not only resolved to grant safe haven to all illegal aliens from Mexico, but made Spanish the town's official language? Me neither.

Reid is the incoming Senate Majority Leader. Happy New Year!

Here in Georgia, taking time out from lobbying against passage of the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act, Jerry Gonzales, executive director of the Atlanta-based Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials, joined marchers outside the CNN Center carrying signs calling CNN's Lou Dobbs a racist.

Dobb's offense? His must-see daily television presentation of the consequences of illegal immigration.

Beware: The open borders lobby, designed to create a climate of fear for Americans tempted to speak out in defense of their nation against amnesty-again, will be in high gear in 2007. On illegal immigration, the president has found new friends.

Happy New Year - or as we may be saying next year if illegals are rewarded with a path to citizenship again - Feliz Ano Nuevo.


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: dirtboy
What is wrong is you were claiming that 1/3rd of the Tancredo caucus lost. Until I challenged you to back up your claim.

And I corrected that error in reply #35, but even though I corrected you like a good Pravda "journalist" will run with the berating.

81 posted on 01/04/2007 12:55:44 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
And I corrected that error in reply #35

In a manner that one couldn't even tell it was a correction. After you had spread the original lie for some time, and you only retracted it when called on it.

Now how about you find some of the threads where you have spread this error for the last few months and correct it? Or at least issue corrections for a couple of weeks on immigration threads?

Or are you content just to run to the next bogus talking point? After all, saying one third of the house losses were from the Tancredo caucus sounds bad until it is made clear they were nearly half the GOP House. How about you be big enough to say that the Tancredo caucus actually lost at a lesser percentage than the non-caucus GOP members?

82 posted on 01/04/2007 1:00:04 PM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: dirtboy
In a manner that one couldn't even tell it was a correction. After you had spread the original lie for some time, and you only retracted it when called on it.

Uh dude that "original" lie came from an article that I posted on FR two days ago.

Now are you going to deny the fact that 1/3rd of the democrat pickups for the House came from the Tancredo caucus.

You can deny all you want and you can believe that "denial" is a river in Egypt for all I care.

BTW, also I ain't going to get into a p!ssing match with you dirt, why don't you try to prove that 1/3 of the democrat pickups in the House did not come from Tancredo immigration caucus. Just my opinion, you can't.

83 posted on 01/04/2007 1:06:26 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Now are you going to deny the fact that 1/3rd of the democrat pickups for the House came from the Tancredo caucus...why don't you try to prove that 1/3 of the democrat pickups in the House did not come from Tancredo immigration caucus.

You're the one who made the claim. Substaniate it youself, Ms. Mapes. You're just like her. Having been caught in a lie, you ask your opponent prove the negative, instead of YOU proving the positive.

84 posted on 01/04/2007 1:10:15 PM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: dirtboy; Dane
I noticed Dane stayed away from this thread the other day. No wonder since it refutes the "closed border types caused the GOP loss" statements from people like Dane and a few others.

The Great Illegal Immigration Myth of '06

85 posted on 01/04/2007 1:10:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dane
Here's the facts, Dane.

Of the 98 members of Rep. Tom Tancredo's Immigration Reform Caucus who ran for reelection, 91 won their races. Of the 104 caucus members, 6 did not run. So 7 of the Dem pickups were from caucus members actively running for re-election.

Let's see - 7/31 equals less than one-quarter. Not one third. But I did notice the weasel-word in the claim:

with almost one-third of the 31 Democrat House pickups coming from Rep. Tom Tancredo's (R-Colo.) anti-immigration caucus.

Almost is SUCH a flexible term.

But the truth is, immigration caucus members up for re-election lost seats at a lesser rate than the average for pubbies. Which means non-caucus members got trounced a lot harder.

Oh, and while doing a Google Search on this topic, I noticed a couple of Socialist/Communist websites parroting the same kind of talking points you have been using. You might want to check them out for a new one now that yours has been demolished.

86 posted on 01/04/2007 1:17:20 PM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Dane

Well, Dane thought she could spread her lies elsewhere. No chance.


87 posted on 01/04/2007 1:18:07 PM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: Wolfie

You have that very much right. You can sit in a room of Republicans here in the DC area and find most want common sense imigration policy and protecting the borders, while the minority, those that write the checks and those that recieve the checks, defending amnesty and other bad immigration policies.


88 posted on 01/04/2007 2:22:48 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: dirtboy
Your response reminds me of a friend of mine who hired a secretary and she was caught stealing from him. She denied it, and was fired. When my friend sent her an invoice for $20,000, she wrote back and said "THAT IS A LIE, I ONLY TOOK LESS THAN $15,000!"

Your howls about the relative percentages of the Tacredo caucus remind me of the fact that the immigration issue, despite the merit or lack thereof of Dane, got you no seats in Congress. It simply does not resonate with a great number of conservatives, though it seems that it will put blood in the eye of some of them, judging from this thread.

89 posted on 01/04/2007 2:31:11 PM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: Mount Athos

Our Government is going to be in for a rude surprise in the next 100 hours of the new session of Congress. Pelosi is about to find out what the electorate is all about. Go ahead and increase the minimum wage to $7.14 per hour and legalize 30 million illegals.

These people are peasants and cannot speak, read, or write English. The employers will fire ALL of them with English speaking hispanics and American citizens. Since the illegals were paid under the table, they are not due unemployment benefits since their Employer does not cover them with his 1% payroll tax for unemployment that they pay to the state.


90 posted on 01/04/2007 2:50:12 PM PST by DownInFlames
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To: Dane

9.8% of candidates with an "A" ranking on immigration lost.

25% of those with an "F" ranking lost.

Do the math.


91 posted on 01/04/2007 2:53:21 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Dane

Really?

Methinks if they can't get IN, that's a start.


92 posted on 01/04/2007 2:54:12 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Dane

I have yet to meet ONE just ONE person who thinks amnesty is a good thing and who thinks that "illegal immigrants" are here helping, just doing the work that nobody else wants to do. Where I am the illegals are just starting to move in, and the original citizens are moving out. I have NEVER seen more houses for sale in my area before. I have lived here many years and we are a very small community, people are not shy about why they are leaving.


93 posted on 01/04/2007 4:57:23 PM PST by panthermom
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To: MHT

ARE THE CHILDREN BORN HERE AUTOMATIC CITIZENS? ARE WE STILL GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR FREE HEALTHCARE? WILL THEY THEN ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR WELFARE? WILLL THEY BE ALLOWED TO BRING DEPENDANTS FROM MEXICO WITH THEM? WILL WE THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEALTHCARE OF ELDERLY DISABLED DEPENDANTS? WHILE YES,THEY WILL BE PAYING TAXES, WILL THE FAMILY OF A HOUSE PAINTER WITH 5 KIDS THEN GET AN EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT? THINK OF THAT TIMES 10 MILLION, Y'ALL! THIS IS RIDICULOUS. IF THERE ARE CERTAIN INDUSTRIES THAT BELIEVE THAT THEY CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT UNSKILLED, UNEDUCATED LOW PAYING WORKERS, I'M ALL FOR IT AS LONG AS THE PARTICULAR EMPLOYERS SPONSOR THE WORKER, THAT MEANS MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THEIR NEEDS TAKEN CARE OF SO THE TAX PAYER DOES NOT HAVE TO FOOT THE DANG BILL FOR THEIR CHEAP LABOR!!!!!! AND IF YOU ARE A GUEST WORKER, ANY CHILDREN BORN WHILE YOU ARE HERE ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS BUT THE CITIZENS OF THE PARENTS ETHNIC COUNTRY!!!


94 posted on 01/04/2007 5:12:40 PM PST by panthermom
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To: panthermom
I have yet to meet ONE just ONE person who thinks amnesty is a good thing and who thinks that "illegal immigrants" are here helping, just doing the work that nobody else wants to do

Uh you do know of the famous quote by a wealthy Manhattan west sider who siad after the 72 Presidential election(which Nixon won with a 49 state lanslide) of, "I don't know how Nixon won, nobody I knew voted for him".

JMO, you are just as isolated as that wealthy woman back in 72.

95 posted on 01/04/2007 5:24:28 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Poor poor pitiful me, I guess I just don't get out too much, waahhhh. Give me a break. Show me anywhere that a huge influx of illegals have taken over where things either remained the same or had gotten better. Lets see, as far as my frame of reference I feel I am pretty well informed when it comes to MY LIFE AND MY COMMUNITY!!! My husband does one of those jobs that AMERICANS can't or won't do, so don't go there with me. In fact he has spent all week fixing problems from these so called wonderful, attentive workers. He's worked construction for way too many years not to notice the difference in quality. Don't you dare try to insinuate that he has no idea what he is talking about either. Believe it or not that here in Atlanta there ARE STILL BUILDERS who won't hire crews with illegals and there is a huge difference. Ya know whats really funny? The builders that do use illegals for their everyday houses won't let the illegals work on their OWN homes, gee I wonder why?


96 posted on 01/04/2007 6:14:55 PM PST by panthermom
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To: Dane; Lurker; gubamyster; HiJinx; Kimberly GG; Spiff; All
"...that 1/3 of the GOP of Tancredos's immigration caucus, lost."

Dane you liar. Only 6.7% of republican members of Tancredo's caucus lost, which is below the percentage of republicans not in Tancredo's caucus who lost. Do you just make crap up?

http://www.smallgovtimes.com/story/06dec06.brownback.liberal.globalist/

You may need to seek help for all the lying you do, Dane.

97 posted on 01/04/2007 9:35:36 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: NapkinUser
Correction:

Only 6.7% of Republicans losing were members of Tancredo's caucus, whereas 40.9% of the seats lost were those of pro-amnesty Republicans....

98 posted on 01/04/2007 9:38:54 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: TommyDale
"I'm wondering if Bush's advisors understand that this is a wedge issue, and the GOP candidate running to be his successor will lose on this issue alone?"

I wonder if Bush's advisers understand that importing 50 million new Democrats will end the possibility of him ever having a Republican successor? At least not after they "earn" their stolen citizenship!

If his will is done on this issue, the Republican Party will never again be a majority party after about 2012.
99 posted on 01/04/2007 9:53:31 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: welfareisslavery

Lemme slip in here with a little thought amongst this spirited name-calling. What happens after amnesty? The good people that refuse to pay legal wages to legal citizens will continue the cycle by not paying legal wages to the next batch of New Americans. Then it will all start anew. Why do I not find this in the Political discussion?


100 posted on 01/04/2007 10:36:50 PM PST by welfareisslavery (medicaid is not insurance, it's welfare.)
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