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Ellison To Use Quran Suggested By Radical Muslim Group
Sweetness & Light ^ | January 3, 2007 | N/A

Posted on 01/03/2007 8:18:25 PM PST by Sam Hill

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To: Howlin
And I wonder if there will be a prayer room in the nation's Capitol now.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it has already happened.
They're gathering in the basement already. I simply Googled this article; I don't know who the group is that posted this back in June.

At midday on Fridays, Muslims gather to pray in a basement room of the U.S. Capitol. . . . At first just a prayer group, later a Muslim support group, the association is now looking outward to change what [they] see as woeful ignorance about Islam on Capitol Hill and beyond, according to Jameel Aalim-Johnson, a Muslim and chief of staff for Rep. Meeks, D-New York.

Some 100 non-Muslim congressional colleagues attended an association luncheon and the showing of part of a documentary on Islam in America. Visiting Imams from the Middle East recently met with association members. The congressional chaplain's office consulted them about offering classes on Islam on Capitol Hill, said association member Nayyera Haq, daughter of Pakistani immigrants and spokeswoman for Rep. John Salazar, D-Colo. “We're excited and hopeful,” Haq said of the group's new mission. "It's nice to be Muslim and feel hopeful about the future.”

21 posted on 01/03/2007 8:47:27 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: Sam Hill

I must really be stupid... can someone please educate me?

I thought the whole point of taking an "oath" or "swearing" or "affirming" on the Holy Bible was because the Bible commands one to not bear false witness and to let yes mean yes and no mean no (tell the truth).

The koran has a couple of references about telling the truth as well, but very clearly allows lies and deception. They have "taqiyya" and "kitman" for gosh sakes... both doctrines based on the koran and in use right now.

It's not only okay to lie when needed, but obligatory if the ends cannot be gained by honest means!

So, what's the point on taking an oath on the koran? Unless of course this fellow understands that his allegiance is to Allah and Islamic law first and foremost and that it's okay to deceive the infidels to achieve his goals.

jw


22 posted on 01/03/2007 8:47:28 PM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Sam Hill
An English translation of the Arabic, Jefferson's Quran was published in 1764 in London, a later printing of one originally published in 1734.

According to Islamic tradition, a translation of the Koran is not a Koran, but a commentary on it. A Koran is real only if it is in the original Arabic. So those who didn't want him to swear on a Koran are actually getting their wish.

23 posted on 01/03/2007 8:47:42 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Sam Hill
Thomas Jefferson wasn't a muslim because he owned a copy of the quran. I know several people who own the book of morman but that ownership of a book doesn't make them mormans. I'm a Christian and own many Bibles but owning them in no way makes me a Christian. Accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior is what makes me a Christian. A book is a book. It's how it effects you that counts. This guy scares me and I'm fearless. Just take a good look at the picture at the lead of this article.
24 posted on 01/03/2007 8:48:40 PM PST by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Eagles6
Will it be handled by the infidel with white gloves?

As it's not in Arabic, it doesn't matter since only Arabic Korans need to be protected as holy. A translation is not even considered to be a Koran in Islam.

25 posted on 01/03/2007 8:49:33 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Howlin
"This is so in your face it makes me sick." I agree. He's shoving it down our throat and his appeasers in the Democratic party are lapping it up like hungry dogs. This reminds me of the story of the frozen snake.
26 posted on 01/03/2007 8:51:42 PM PST by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: JWinNC

You are so right on.


27 posted on 01/03/2007 8:54:07 PM PST by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Sam Hill

Jefferson had many qurans in his library. This was pre-SearsCatologue days.


28 posted on 01/03/2007 8:55:00 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Meeks! What a creep that guy is.

These articles are very depressing to me.


29 posted on 01/03/2007 8:57:57 PM PST by Howlin (Not voting GOP was like being thirsty but not drinking since the glass is only 75% full ~~SoCalPol)
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To: Sam Hill

If the FBI hasn't opened a dossier on this clown already they're guilty of gross malpractice.


30 posted on 01/03/2007 8:58:40 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: jwalburg
Only a matter of time before candidates take oaths on condom wrappers."

Only a matter of time before candidates take no oath of office at all, claiming it's a violation of their civil rights.

31 posted on 01/03/2007 8:59:58 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Howlin

"Does he think because Jefferson owned it that's an endorsement of it? This is so in your face it makes me sick."

He must have thought it was the PR stunt from Allah.

Too bad it came from the minds of the Muslim Brotherhood -- a terrorist group that dates back to Conan Doyle.


32 posted on 01/03/2007 9:02:31 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Howlin
"But Jefferson didn't take HIS oath on it, did he?"

How can a black muslim man bring himself to swear on anything owned by that slave owning white man who forced himself sexually on his poor slave Sally Hemmings and impregnated her?

/sarcasm

33 posted on 01/03/2007 9:06:52 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Luigi Vasellini
"Jefferson stated that the Koran was the cause of the barbary pirates."

Oh oh...don't let that get out or there will be another Jihad declared!

34 posted on 01/03/2007 9:08:48 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: dawn53
Now a black man chooses to take the oath on a Quran owned by Jefferson.

Ah! But Keith Ellison's religion still embraces slavery, lo these many centuries after the rest of the world has rejected it...

35 posted on 01/03/2007 9:09:06 PM PST by an amused spectator (The 1st Minnesota Regt died fighting a culture which embraced slavery. Think about it, Ellison.)
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To: Dan Evans
"religious differences are nothing to be afraid of."

Unless you're a Christian in an Arab country.

36 posted on 01/03/2007 9:12:19 PM PST by airborne (Duncan Hunter For President!)
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To: hemogoblin
I love watching liberals defend a religion that puts women in bags, doesn't let them be educated, bans music and literature, flogs homosexuals, cuts off limbs, spreads morality by the sword, etc. etc. etc.

Don't forget that the religion also still believes in slavery...

37 posted on 01/03/2007 9:12:29 PM PST by an amused spectator (The 1st Minnesota Regt died fighting a culture which embraced slavery. Think about it, Ellison.)
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To: mass55th

LOL......oh, my .......you did that VERY well, friend.

Kind of scary, in fact...........LOL.


38 posted on 01/03/2007 9:12:35 PM PST by Howlin (Not voting GOP was like being thirsty but not drinking since the glass is only 75% full ~~SoCalPol)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

"Jefferson stated that the Koran was the cause of the barbary pirates"

And he wasn't talking through his hat. That is exactly what he was told by the Muslim leaders of the day:

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!

The Barbary Pirates were Muslims. Those they preyed upon were exclusively Christians, and if not released through the payment of tribute, faced slavery or worse. Those few who converted to Islam escaped slavery, and were treated as equals. If any Christian dared to blaspheme Allah, he risked being impaled or roasted alive. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, serving at the time as European Ministers, asked the ambassador from Tripoli why his government sanctioned such savagery. He replied that the Koran stated that non-Muslims were "sinners," and Muslims had a "...right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners."

http://www.zianet.com/web/barbary.htm


39 posted on 01/03/2007 9:16:39 PM PST by Sam Hill
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