Posted on 01/03/2007 6:00:33 PM PST by shrinkermd
First, some basic facts about the state of middle-class Americans. The US unemployment rate now is at a healthy 4.5 percent. This rate is lower than the average annual unemployment rate for the 1970s (6.2 percent), the 1980s (7.3 percent), and even the high-growth 1990s (5.6 percent). Inflation, meanwhile, is running below the average for the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
Here's more good news for ordinary Americans. The percentage of Americans who own their own homes is higher than ever, even though the size of today's typical home is larger than ever. Workers' leisure time, too, is at historically high levels. And jobs are just as secure today as they were in the late 1960s, according to a research paper by University of California-Davis economist Ann Huff Stevens.
Perhaps you think that this prosperity exists only because so many of today's households require two income earners. But women started leaving homes for paid employment at least a century ago, with no jump since the end of World War II in the rate at which women enter the workforce, according to a recent report by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Had worker pay truly deteriorated in the past 30 years, and had families reacted by sending moms to the workforce, the rate at which women join the workforce would have increased. It did not.
(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...
Unfortunately The New Yorker forbids even excerpts so I couldn't post their profile of Dobbs wherein they describe his lunching at Four Seasons, sitting at his usual table, ordering the $45 sole, etc.
Another fraud.
Great article, not that it's going to change anyone's mind; especially with people here being so in love with idea of America's collapse. Maybe it's not a denial of reality but a distortion of it. Remember, these are the same people that complain if:
--capital flows from foreign companies into American ones (they're buying us out!!!)
--it goes back (American traitors are sending US dollars overseas!!!)
--it balances out (America no longer competes in the international market!!!!)
Amazing how these idiots can switch back forth from crying about any of those three choices --for them it's always bad for America.
This explains why our trade deficit with China is not a significant problem. The dollars sent across the Pacific rebound as investment or spending on goods and services, such as the recent $3- to $4-billion contract with Westinghouse Electric Co. to build nuclear-power plants in China. While many fear that China might stop investing in the U.S., or sell its current investment holdings, this is misplaced worry. If China traded its dollars for euros, then whoever stood on the other side of that transaction would hold those dollars -- facing the same choices of buying from, or investing in, America. Foreign investment reflects the strength of the U.S. as a safe and sound economy."
He's another one who gets it.
Amazing how these idiots can switch back forth from crying about any of those three choices --for them it's always bad for America.
The best justice is to continue getting wealthy from this booming economy while they stand on the sideline wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth.
From the Beltway Boys' last show:
KONDRACKE: Down. "Blowhard of the Year" award goes to CNN's Lou Dobbs. Now this is a guy who also could qualify for "Turncoat of the Year".
BARNES: Yes.
KONDRACKE: .when he used to be a cheerleader for capitalism and for corporate America. Now he is a - a - a demagogue, it - it amounts for populists and - and protectionists and - and xenophobes. And he doesn't have any answers.
BARNES: And he's wrong. You know, the fact is, the rolling up our borders and pulling out of the globalized economy is a way to achieve one thing: a lower standard of living.
KONDRACKE: Yes. Poverty. Yes, exactly. Absolutely.
BARNES: A low - you know.
So no one owning a home is gaining wealth by building equity? TOTAL HOGWASH!
2007 is going to bring home a lesson on the difference between owning your home and owning a very large mortgage obligation.
"So no one owning a home is gaining wealth by building equity? TOTAL HOGWASH!"
Equity is the part of your lease from the government that you can sell. You don't own it if you still have to pay someone for it. The government owns your home. The bank bought the right to make money from you until you pay off the loan. Then you only owe rent to the government. Once the bank is out of the way you can sell your right to live there if you want. But you don't own it, or your wouldn't have to keep paying the government for it.
07 could be the year.Personal debt is at an all time high,National debt isn't evn discussed much anymore and in spite of how great this huge trade imbalance is supposed to be I think it's bs spin myself.The unemplyment rate while better then other times could change in a heartbeat now that Democraps are running the show again !!!
You MIGHT have a point, if "seller-financing" was the only form of financing available to a buyer. However, in most modern (i.e.: "non-quaint") transactions, the Seller is paid the full sales price when the transaction closes, so, after the closing, the seller is clearly NOT the owner. So....who is, then?
Let's see if we can learn that using your proposition that a person does not OWN an asset, if any future payment associated with that asset is due to a third party (said third party being the REAL "owner" of the asset, until the payment is made).
By that "definition",
(1) Mr. Lee "owns" the shirts I take to the laundry (cleaning fees payable)
(2) The town "owns" my debt-free beach house (RE Taxes payable)
(3) The IRS "owns" my securities (capital gains taxes payable)
(4) Merrill Lynch "owns" my securities (monthly service fees payable)
(5) The Depositary Trust and Clearing Corporation "owns" my securities (custodial fees payable)
(6) My children "own" my securities (inheritance payable)
(7) My alma mater "owns" my securities (planned giving/death bequest)
(8) Zachy's "owns" the the case of Dolce Far Niente I bought there last Saturday (my check hasn't cleared yet) and
(9) Le Bernadin still "owns" the delicious lunch I ate there yesterday (I won't pay my AMEX bill for at least two weeks).
It should be obvious that these examples of "ownership" are ridiculous. It follows that your unique definition of "ownership" is also ridiculous. When you said:
"...Ownership nowadays is nothing more than a public umbilical octopus surgically implanted into your wallet..."
I understood you to mean:
"...NOBODY ever REALLY owns ANYTHING!!! Really!! EVER!!! REALLY!!!!..."
This is not to say that your definition might not appeal to some members of our current flock of preening Pharisees.
But let's not replace the ancient, common-sense based, LEGAL definition of ownership (which IMHO has served us very well in the real world) with a new half-baked quasi-religious definition, just on your say-so.
OK?
They'll pry my yearly COLA out of my cold, dead hands.
Work hard, little worker bees who are still in the work force, because you're paying my retirement check, which I deserve after going thru the hell of federal employment. Work hard, youth of America. Work, work, work.
Thanks for the clarification.
I think every honest student of economics would agree that "less taxation" is to be preferred to "more taxation" -- until the point is reached where our social contract begins to break down.
Since I am not aware of any post-"hunter-gatherer" society where taxes are not or were not imposed, I conclude that taxes are a necessary evil associated with civilization itself.
==> If you disagree with that conclusion, I'd appreciate it if you would provide an example of a real world society where taxes are/were not imposed. For this purpose, I'd say that any "utopian" society, which has not succeeded in the real world, has nothing to "teach" us in this regard.
In reponse to your claim of "tax-rape", please note that, in return for the real estate taxes I pay to my town, I receive:
(1) the services of policemen
(2) the services of firemen
(3) the services of schoolteachers
(4) the benefits of a working waste-treatment system
(5) roads and sidewalks in good repair
(6) several beautiful, well-maintained public parks
(7) access to several well-supplied, modern libraries
(8) enjoyment of several "free" spectacles each year, such as outdoor concerts and fireworks on Independence Day
(9) assurance that any building I may buy is well-constructed
(10) relief from many complex administrative duties, like:
(a) buying the "best" school textbooks
(b) preventing conversion of adjacent properties into smelly pig-farms or other nuisances
(c) compliance with federal- or state-mandated programs such as "leaf pick-up" and "re-cycling".
And please understand that my real estate taxes are not imposed on me by a rapacious, hereditary nobleman or by a far-away, myopic bureaucrat.
Instead, my taxes are imposed by the majority rule of a group of my neighbors at an annual, open public meeting. I, and every other adult citizen of my town, elect these representatives every two years by means of a secret ballot. These elections allow us (through those neighbors) to control the spending ITEMS that determine just how high our taxes must be in the aggregate.
==> If your problem with taxes is a really a problem with the concept of "majority-rule", I don't know what to say.
Moreover, if I feel my taxes are too high relative to taxes paid on comparable properties, I have the right to appeal my tax assessment and, if I am not satisfied through that appeal process, I have the right to sue my town in order to realize a "just" tax. So I am not a "tax-serf", subject to highly arbitrary power, although I gather that's what you think all of us homeowners are.
As you may know, local real estate taxes pre-date our Constitution, so I think there is no value to be earned by exclaiming that real-estate taxes are somehow "un-Constitutional" or that the imposition of real estate taxes has destroyed a freedom that we "once had".
To my knowledge, the only class of ASSET (as differentiated from CONSUMABLES) that is legally not subject to tax, is "municipal bonds", chosen to be exempt from state tax as well as federal tax. IIRC, John Kerry and his wife receive about $5MM in tax-free income from such bonds each year.
==> OTOH, if you aware of any other class of capital asset, which is not taxed, I'd be interested to hear of it.
The free market works best when the buyer and the seller of a product have a good understanding of exactly what the product is and a good understanding of the value of the currency offered in exchange for that product.
With all due respect, your idea of using a one-time tax charged on a real estate purchase to pay for all the future services to be provided by the local government for the benefit of that buyer does NOT do that. Homebuyer "A" might remain in his new house for two years, while homebuyer "B" might remain in his identical new house for twenty-two years. With that uncertainty, do you think our bureaucrats may tend to "over-estimate" the one-time tax that is due on the purchases of those new homes? Hmmmm...
Moreover, using this example, it does not seem "fair" to me for Mr. "A" to pay the same tax as Mr. "B" -- since Mr. "B" will receive 11 times the locally-provided services and benefits as Mr. "A". In effect, the result of the one-time real estate tax is an income transfer from Mr. "A" to Mr. "B". IIRC, conservatives usually object to such government-mandated income transfers.
"Fairness" aside, I just don't see how over-taxing the most mobile Americans to subsidize the most sedentary Americans can improve our economy. Mobility is essential to maximize economic efficiency, is it not?
A further point is that the one-time real estate tax you propose will, of necessity, be quite large. I have calculated that the one-time tax payment needed to "defease" the annual cost of locally-provided services, if we assume:
(1) that that cost of services starts at $10,000 per year
(2) that that cost increases at a rate of 8% per year
(3) that the house is resold in the 20th year
(4) that the one-time tax payment will be invested to yield 5% annually,
is $254,833. IMHO, a $254,833 one-time real estate tax would be a significant deal-breaker for most prospective homebuyers.
A final drawback is that, having paid the one-time tax, some homebuyers will be indifferent to how aggressively the bureaucrats might choose to increase their rate of "public" spending, thereafter.
So I really think that a "pay-as-you-go" real estate tax is preferable to a one-time real estate tax paid at closing, due to its transparency, fairness, economic feasibility and the potential for more (some?) tax-payer "control" over the growth of spending by our local governments.
I hope I have made my postion clear.
==>Please see the comments I have added to your presentation:
The one time property sales tax, as I envision it, is part of the general sales tax applied to everyone...
==>Does this mean that my local town government will NOW be able to impose its own sales tax? Isn't every "new" tax a BAD idea? I do know that some jurisdictions, like NYC, have imposed a "local" sales tax.
It doesn't need to be so high as you suggest...
==> Please "Do the math", as I did. You could just take the expense budget of your town from last year and divide it by the number of houses sold in your town last year to get the "average" one-time tax that would have been needed to fund those expenses. If you divide that "average" one-time tax by the average selling price you will calculate an eye-popping percentage as the "rate" of the one-time tax.
...because the burden is spread across the entire spectrum.
==> If I understand your idea correctly, the tax burden is NOT spread to all property owners, but is restricted to only those property owners who sell their real estate.
My idea merges property tax with all other local taxes and makes it payable by everyone at the time of transactions for goods and services. Your water bill goes up, your heating bill goes up, and all other bills go up, but the contribution now taken from property tax goes down and the government can't come and put liens or make other threats, nor reappraise your property at their whims.
==> I assume that the one-time tax will be paid from the proceeds of the sale of a home at the closing of that sale. If the one-time tax is not paid, then the closing cannot occur. Using my example, this would create a problem for the seller if the sales price is not more than $254,833 above whatever mortgage debt is due.
The burden is painful and shared by everyone,...
==> Sounds good, but isn't your idea to collect the one-time tax from just those people who sell their houses, when they sell? A tax from "everyone" is what we have now, isn't it?
...as a tax should be. That's the only way to keep government in a reasonably responsible mode.
==> Some people think the "lead-bullet term limit" would be more effective.
It is the only way to keep people involved, and it is the only fair way.
Look, people who lease apartments pay property tax indirectly. As do customers in stores, etc. The problem is the indirectly. The apartment owner must pay the tax to the government, so the government has a single point of contact. That's nice for the government, but it sucks for the apartment owner. The owner can say to the renter that his prices are going up because of high property taxes, but the renter can just move and the owner is still stuck with the tax. The owner is stuck with an unfair accountability exactly because he is less easily mobile.
==> In the short run. In the long run, apartment owners cease investing in over-taxed apartments, which then decay into slums, which create additional social costs.
In my version, no sale, no tax. The government is the party that has to be more reasonable.
==> LOL
==> Most states charge a "use tax" on equipment rentals as a proxy for the sales tax they do not collect from the "sale" of the equipment to the lessee. I have no doubt that taxing jurisdictions would LOVE to charge a "use tax" on real estate rentals, if they thought they could get away with it.
If property tax is merged into a more general sales tax, then everyone pays it as they go, including transients, who use up a lot of the goods and services you mention at the expense of the locals. The government takes it's money as the transactions are made and can't arbitrarily raise it on one property because he painted it or because the guy next door sold for more. What you have now is the sedentary population being saddled for the mobile population's whims. Exactly the opposite of what you complained about. Why should real estate speculators and those passing through get a free ride buying and selling homes and raising the taxes of those who actually live in an area long term?
==> IIRC, the "value-added-tax" imposed on most Europeans is, objectively, a disaster for those poor tax-payers. Most citizens have no legal way to reduce the taxes they pay. Moreover, they cannot "vote with their feet" to escape such taxes.
I'll admit that the dynamics change, but I suggest that the change is good and necessary. Government should not and never be in the "tax appraisal" business.
==> I agree that wily bureaucrats have found ways to abuse the "appraisal" process to increase tax revenues. But that is a topic for another day.
The tax should be fixed and spread across spectrum. It should also be based on transactions, not ownership or possession.
==> IMHO, the real problem is that government spending is too high and very wasteful. Tinkering with the mechanisms of collecting taxes will not change that. I think that annual property taxes give the citizens a chance (an a motive) to rein in their local bureaucrats. You may disagree.
Otherwise, we are not free.
==> By that definition, since property taxes precede Hammurabi, we have never been free.
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