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Duke To Reinstate Seligmann, Finnerty (DukeLax)
WTVD ^ | January 3, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/03/2007 10:57:18 AM PST by abb

(01/03/07 -- DURHAM) - Duke lacrosse defendants Colin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann are both expected to be reinstated today as Duke students in good standing, two sources close to the case told ABC News. Also on abc11tv.com: Send us news tips | Desktop Alert | ABC11 AccuWeather | Pinpoint Traffic Defendant David Evans was allowed to graduate last spring, but underclassmen Seligmann and Finnerty were suspended from the University pending a resolution of the assault charges.

December 22, 2006, prosecutors dropped rape charges against the three Duke lacrosse players accused of attacking a stripper at a team party, but the three still face kidnapping and sexual offense charges.

According to court papers filed by District Attorney Mike Nifong, the accuser says she now does not know if she was penetrated during the alleged attack.

The accuser, a 28-year-old student at North Carolina Central University, has said three men raped her in a bathroom at a March 13 Duke lacrosse team party where she was hired to perform as a stripper.

The indicted players - Dave Evans, Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann - all say they are innocent, and their attorneys have consistently said no sex occurred at the party.

Evans graduated from Duke in May, the day before he was indicted. Sophomores Finnerty and Seligmann were suspended following their April 2006 indictments.

The Duke lacrosse team was also suspended from play, but was reinstated in June on a provisionary basis.

A press conference from defense attorneys is expected this afternoon.

Stay with abc11tv.com and ABC11 Eyewitness News for the latest on this developing story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durham; nifong
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To: newgeezer

Apparently you are still suffering whatever reputation you no doubt deservedly earned at 21 and hope that seeing others suffer the same will somehow make you feel better.

Now, get back to your therapeutic porn sites and quit bugging us.


341 posted on 01/03/2007 6:24:19 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: don'tbedenied

Actually, I use it, even though I totally disagree with geezer.

It's not geezer's words that are his problem. It's his thoughts.


342 posted on 01/03/2007 6:26:26 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Clemenza

I think they did request a white and an hispanic stripper? Were they also trying to hire an illegal alien stripper?
:-)


343 posted on 01/03/2007 6:27:14 PM PST by JLS
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To: Locomotive Breath

If Duke doesn't release their transcripts, for academic purposes, their Duke coursework doesn't exist and they cannot use it as a basis for transferring and enrolling as a full time student elsewhere.

Well, they can enroll anywhere else full-time, and I'm not sure about whether Duke would be able to withhold the transfer of their transcripts to a new school. There would be no legal basis for them to withhold them. So, I don't believe you are right about this. You may be, but I don't think so.


344 posted on 01/03/2007 6:31:23 PM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: flaglady47
Well not now that they've been reinstated, but most universities will withhold your transcripts for something as trivial as unpaid library fines.
345 posted on 01/03/2007 6:33:15 PM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Mad-Margaret
newgeezer, why don't you take your views to the CTV boards. They'd be welcomed there.

Please do not encourage him to come to CTV. It is bad enough with the latest versions of Granny and Chicky Girl.

346 posted on 01/03/2007 6:38:48 PM PST by writmeister
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To: sissyjane
Sounds like I missed some fireworks today?

Me too. I went to see The Good Sheppard Today and it is 3 hours long! So I missed all the excitement and am catching up an commenting now.
347 posted on 01/03/2007 6:44:14 PM PST by JLS
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To: JLS

Was it a decent movie?


348 posted on 01/03/2007 6:46:09 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: flaglady47

It is not that Duke would not release their transcripts but rather their transcripts would reflect that they are suspended. Most other schools as a matter of course do not accept students under suspension by another school.


349 posted on 01/03/2007 6:51:33 PM PST by JLS
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To: abb

I thought it was ok. It was a bit confusing and complicated. It had a bit too much Skull and Bones Society stuff in it for me.

It gave a decent sketch of the history of the OSS/CIA from the founding of the OSS through the openning of the CIA Langley facility. It showed a huge toll on family from working for CIA and it showed many of the pressures they are under.


350 posted on 01/03/2007 6:55:06 PM PST by JLS
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To: newgeezer

The whole thing about hiring the strippers in the first place has been the fall-back position of the lefties who have insulted and disparaged these boys over and over again, publicly, each time another shoe proving their innocence has dropped.

It's all you got left, lol, and it's nothing.


351 posted on 01/03/2007 7:01:20 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: ziggy_dlo

That is a hilarious pic. Thanks for posting it.


352 posted on 01/03/2007 7:01:21 PM PST by torchthemummy (Romney 2008)
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To: SuziQ

He won't be able to practice law which, even in NC, is likely a prerequisite to hold the job.


353 posted on 01/03/2007 7:04:40 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb

If either of these kids go back, they should have their heads examined. They are going to have big fat targets painted on their backs, and will be set up by every radical feminist and/or race hustler on campus.

A university far, far away, under an assumed name, is the way to go, here. It may not be justice, but it is practical.


354 posted on 01/03/2007 7:16:46 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: writmeister
Please do not encourage him to come to CTV. It is bad enough with the latest versions of Granny and Chicky Girl.

Is Granny still there? What happened to regina lambert? I looked in for the first time in months a couple of nights ago and I see they have a Duke board again (after limiting the topic to a single thread with Chick Girl in charge). Nothing like trying to reboard the train long after it's left the station.

This hasn't exactly been the finest hour of the CTV boards.

355 posted on 01/03/2007 7:18:02 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: Howlin

It can be shown in trial against Nifong (and a separate one against the accuser, if need be) without putting the boys in jeopardy. It's sort of analogous to taking the WoT to the ME, such as Iraq, instead of letting the enemy come to our soil. :)

Nifong has already admitted that the only evidence he has is the accuser's statements, which are dissolving, yet the risk of a racist jury of black Durhamites deciding they want to convict no matter how obvious their innocence is is great. If it was your son, would you take that risk, especially when it has become obvious anyway to every sentient person that he is innocent? You'd risk him being sentenced to forty years in prison by a bunch of racists? No defense attorney worth a dime would allow that if avoidable.

The most essential flaw in this case has been NC criminal procedure. There is no mechanism for a probable cause hearing. If there was, it would have been apparent long ago that Nifong did not have anything remotely approaching the needed elements to even show that a crime occurred, let alone that these boys committed it. In a probable cause hearing, Nifong would have had to set forth what he claims happened, who did what, when, where and how. The lack of evidence, multiple stories and alibis would have come in and blown him out of the water, and probable cause is a lesser burden than beyond a reasonable doubt. In a normal state, Nifong would first have to show that a crime occurred, but that's not the case in NC because of the way the law is (or isn't) structured, and that includes their hokey indicting grand jury system.


356 posted on 01/03/2007 7:19:57 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Verloona Ti

Note that juries don't return innocent verdicts, only go as far as not guilty. Big difference. The guys still have an arrest record.


357 posted on 01/03/2007 7:24:24 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: newgeezer
"Where do I go to get my reputation back?" asked Ray Donovan, secretary of labor under President Reagan, after he was indicted but subsequently acquitted of charges that he defrauded the New York City Transit Authority of millions.
358 posted on 01/03/2007 7:27:10 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: gridlock
They are going to have big fat targets painted on their backs, and will be set up by every radical feminist and/or race hustler on campus.

Yeah, I think each defendant and really each Duke lacrosse player, regardless of their previous views, now has to become somewhat practical racists. There will always be some fraction of people who believed they raped Mangum. A high percentage of these people will be black. Each will never know when someone who "knows they got away with raping Mangum" will seek street justice on her behalf. They need to give such situations a wide berth.

It is sad, but I hope their parents make them understand this. Their need to be careful in fact is more rational than the woman raped by a black man who afterwards avoids black men at all costs. Both are understandable though.
359 posted on 01/03/2007 7:29:53 PM PST by JLS
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To: Ohioan from Florida
According to South Park [ ;-) ], 25% of Americans are retarded and think 9/11 was an inside job.
360 posted on 01/03/2007 7:35:58 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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