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John Rocker Writes Book On Immigration
NBC ^ | January 2, 2007

Posted on 01/02/2007 12:37:45 PM PST by NapkinUser

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To: MikefromOhio

OMG! That was like reading a Vanity Fair article on Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld all rolled into one.

That was nothing but a hit-piece. It even had two links to johnrockersucks.com, fer crying out loud.


81 posted on 01/02/2007 1:47:24 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Is that incorrect? How so?

Merriam Webster defines racism as "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race." It defines predjudice, among other things, as "an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics." Judging from the comments he made in his Sport Illustrated interview Rocker's own words show his claim that he isn't predjudiced or racist to be total bullshit.

But since it's possible he's never even opened a dictionary much less looked up either word then maybe he can be excused for the mistake.

82 posted on 01/02/2007 1:48:06 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Scutter
I wish more conservatives would understand this basic concept: If you lose the PR war, it doesn't matter whether or not you're right.

Potatoe. Tank helmet. Bunny suit. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! Crying. Electric Shock Therapy. Katrina. Inventing the internet. "Only the little people pay taxes."

When a society is ruled by public opinion like ours (votes or popularity), bad PR will finish you.

Great point you made.

83 posted on 01/02/2007 1:48:55 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Since when is threatening the guy who wrote what ROCKER HIMSELF said the "truth"

It's down towards the bottom....

You really shouldn't be backing this guy up. His teammates didn't want anything to do with him, he was considered a cancer to the team BEFORE this all came out.

Better yet, prove to us that he ISN'T a racist. We have ample evidence that he IS a racist, a homophobe and all the rest.....
84 posted on 01/02/2007 1:49:06 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats
I said it earlier,
but I 'met' him when I didn't know who he was or what the flack was about.

The attitude wasn't pleasant and language I heard was pretty crude, and this was in a familish setting.... with his girlfriend present. And lets not get into his penchant for wearing thin linen pants sans undies.....

EEEK! It was gross. I can't imagine him writing anything worth reading.
85 posted on 01/02/2007 1:49:20 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: MikefromOhio

Oh, dear! *wringing hands*


86 posted on 01/02/2007 1:49:20 PM PST by rabidralph (Happy New Year, y'all!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

"Shut up and pitch."

He's supposed to pitch as an answer to an interview question?


87 posted on 01/02/2007 1:49:38 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: L98Fiero

LOL

So you debate those quotes were ever said?

You think that he isn't a racist? Why?

Because you agree with him.

Just say it.

LOL

Way to out yourself....


88 posted on 01/02/2007 1:50:16 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

He's also a fashion disaster and shouldn't allowed out in daylight without drawers.


89 posted on 01/02/2007 1:50:31 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly.Right message,wrong messenger.
I first thought this wasan article out of The Onion.


90 posted on 01/02/2007 1:50:41 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: rabidralph
Oh, dear! *wringing hands*

Yeah I'm sure that's the first time you've been called a racist....oh wait....

Hell Rocker could show up with a pillow case on his head and you'd defend him.
91 posted on 01/02/2007 1:51:02 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: rabidralph

So because Rocker saw these people on the subway and commented on what he saw, that makes him racist, homophobic, etc.? That's the most ridiculous post I've read today. Rocker calls a spade a spade and you wet your pants. That's great!


Agreed. JR pissed some people off not because what he said was false it was because what he said was true for the most part. I agree that he was a little over the top regarding how he said it but that doesn't make his statement false.


92 posted on 01/02/2007 1:51:11 PM PST by saneright
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To: L98Fiero; MikefromOhio
That was nothing but a hit-piece.

But when has Rocker ever said he was misquoted in it? If it appears to be a piece then it's only because the author didn't try and disguise Rocker's opinions or make him into something he wasn't.

93 posted on 01/02/2007 1:51:16 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: MikefromOhio
Oh no! I call my kids monkeys! For shame, for shame. I'm a racist! Boohoohoo.
94 posted on 01/02/2007 1:53:27 PM PST by stevio (God, Guns, and Guts made America. A politician against any of the 3 doesn't get my vote. (NRA))
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To: stevio
Oh no! I call my kids monkeys! For shame, for shame. I'm a racist! Boohoohoo.

ummmmm ok....
95 posted on 01/02/2007 1:54:07 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Since when is the truth stupid?

"Honey, does this dress make me look fat?

"Yes, very much so."

Even if that is a true statement, it is stupid. As Michael Kinsley said and Maggie Thatcher corroborated, a "gaffe" is the utterance of an inconvenient truth (and no, I'm not talking about Gore's movie).

Rocker's comments cost him a great deal. Fair? Probably not. He was a pitcher, not a manager or mayor or someone else in a position of responsibility. Unfortunately for him, the PC police are pretty efficient in this country.

In any case, such a controversial figure is not going to be an effective spokesman. If he becomes prominent on this issue that will only help those on the other side of the issue.

96 posted on 01/02/2007 1:56:36 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

You left out"I voted for the war before I voted against it"


97 posted on 01/02/2007 1:56:41 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: saneright
Actually, I only knew about sports during that time because both of my teenaged sons were SI subscribers(and therefore eligible for the swimsuit edition!). I did notice, and still see, that in general, sports writers are much better writers than news writers. Bill Reynolds and Kevin McNamara at ProJo are two guys whose columns I've been reading for years. The rest of that Belo rag isn't even worth a look anymore. That is sad because reading newspapers was always a great and relaxing part of my life.

There have been so many articles here at FR over the last weeks about the demise of the print media. Joel Stein of the LAT has a doozy today. What they don't seem to realize is that, while the journalists and editors are losing their jobs, the legions of readers are losing a daily ritual that was truly a gift. They will die off, and I will continue to read news on the Internet, but it just isn't the same feeling. Who is to blame for that?
98 posted on 01/02/2007 1:58:22 PM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: MikefromOhio
calling Jeff Pearlman a "liberal Jew" .

What's wrong with that? I read that here every day, it's a description of a persons not at all unlike conservative christian, is it not?

He also called Randall Simon a "Fat Monkey"....

You would have to be ULTRA-PC, ala Al Sharpton, to find that one ofensive.

C'mon, mike, you are as bad as any NYT editor if this is the best you have, there is nothing wrong with any of these quotes.

My God, people here complain about MSM bias, and here you are eating up thier pablum like a baby.

99 posted on 01/02/2007 1:58:29 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: L98Fiero
You are actually insuting someone for wanting to be more intelligent?

Most adults I know don't moan about being stupid or wish they were more intelligent. If they think they need improve their knowledge in a particular area then they just go out and do it. They don't sit around wishing they weren't dumb anymore. But that's the difference between mature adults and John Rocker.

100 posted on 01/02/2007 1:58:40 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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