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Why Illegal Immigration Is About to Get Worse
Human Events ^ | January 2, 2007 | Mac Johnson

Posted on 01/02/2007 8:48:13 AM PST by Dane

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To: Dane
I don't know Mr. Johnson or any researcher. I don't know how they get paid. Only you have made a charge you cannot back up.

And you are unwilling or unable to provide evidence to support your baseless claim.

The basis for your other opinions is therefor equally unreliable.

41 posted on 01/02/2007 11:02:31 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Dane

My mother is fighting for her life in the hospital now (and has been for the past 3 weeks). This episode was caused by what a witness described as "4 Hispanic males" running a stop sign and hitting her car, causing her to go down an embankment, across a creek, up another embankment. I cannot prove that they are illegal, due to the fact that they didn't stick around. Common sense tells me that my mother may die from these pieces of human excrement and that they were indeed here illegally. This stuff is happening at an epidemic rate in this country. This is a woman who spent her life moving around the world supporting her career U.S. Air Force husband. She is repaid by a lousy government that doesn't even have the spine to enforce it's borders. I hope the people responsible for this invasion rot in hell.


42 posted on 01/02/2007 11:05:33 AM PST by badbass
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To: Dane
Six gang rapes by illegal aliens,
Smugglers of Illegal Aliens Cause Rising Violence in Arizona
America as Predators Paradise
More illegal aliens tried in gang rapes

Man (illegal alien), 19, accused of lewd and lascivious acts with girl, 13
Illegal aliens linked to gang-rape wave

14 farm workers arrested in kidnap, rape
Sting rounds up 25 foreigners for sex crimes
Illegal alien rapes puppy
Study: 1 million sex crimes by illegals - 100 offenders crossing border daily
Charge is sex with 13 year old
Border Sex Slave Ring Defendant Gets 10 Years

Jeffersonville suspect caught in Louisville (molested 8 year old girl)
Court dates loom in taxi, school rapes
Man sentenced to 20 years under new sex offender law (raped 8 year old)
Illegal immigrant rapes one woman and assaults another
4 illegal aliens gang-rape woman in NYC,

Another Child and drug Smuggling Arrest at Hidalgo Port
16 Year Old Illegal Immigrant sentenced to 33 years for rape and burglary
Feds Bust 25 Illegal Alien Sexual Predators in L.A.
Illegal alien suspect in newlywed's rape arrested in Texas
Calif. fugitive wanted on sex charges arrested at Canadian border
Man, 19, accused of lewd and lascivious acts with girl, 13

Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Rape of Newlywed
Jamaican Immigrant Sentenced for Rape of 13-Year-Old
Fugitive Sexual Predators Wanted by Interpol Nabbed in New Jersey
Illegal immigrant denied bail reduction (for trying to abduct 11 year old girl)
Child-rape suspect tells police he has HIV
(raped 5 year old and knew he had HIV)
Man pleads guilty in Frame Park rape
Illegal immigrant pleads guilty to assaulting 6-year-old girl

Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Rapes and Dozens of Sexual Assaults,
More Details on Illegal Immigrant Accused of Raping Children,
Illegal aliens linked to gang-rape wave - The crime epidemic no one will talk about?,
Outrage as 'rapist' vanishes,
Illegal immigrants charged with sexual assault on two 13 year old girls,
Illegal immigrant is given 10 years in gross sexual imposition case,

Theories swirl around Friday's kidnapping, rape,
Illegal immigrant accused of impregnating 10-year-old girl
“Worst of the worst” arrested during Special Operation
, Illegal alien kidnaps and rapes 9 year old girl,
Immigrant Suspected in 7 Sexual Assaults,
Police Looking For Illegal Immigrant Suspected Of Raping A Child,
Illegal Immigrant Charged with Sodomizing Young Boy,
Members of Mexican Sex Slave Ring Sentenced,
Illegal alien jailed for sexual assault of girl, 14

Man dies in shootout with Calif. cops (illegal immigrant)

,
16-year-old illegal immigrant sentenced for brutal knifepoint rape
, Naked illegal alien In Mask Attacks Babysitter,
36 Immigrant Sex Offenders Arrested In Orange County
,
Illegal immigrant is given 10 years in gross sexual imposition case,
43 posted on 01/02/2007 11:10:58 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: badbass

Prayers for your mother's recovery. Don't bother with Dane - he really cannot be knocked off his quest to import cheap labor. As long as he can save a nickel on his lettuce the invasion from abroad is really not a big deal.


44 posted on 01/02/2007 11:14:15 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: ckilmer; Sgt_Schultze; badbass; Dane

Don't even try to reason with Dane. No amount of American Blood spilled is enough for Dane or the open borders crowd to be convinced that illegal immigration has deadly consequences. People like Dane have an ocean of blood on their hands, and unfortunately, this includes Bush.


45 posted on 01/02/2007 11:14:52 AM PST by rottndog (While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
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To: rottndog
Thanks, I know, I have sparred with Dane before. I thought this time, just maybe, I could get him to answer a question - just one question. I only wanted him to backup a statement he made, a requirement he has for others when his worldview is questioned.

But as you have seen, he willfully, skillfully refuses to engage directly.

46 posted on 01/02/2007 11:19:34 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze
I've been round and round with Dane before as well. Sometimes it's lots of fun bi!#h slapping her up and down a thread:

How not to host a thread (Dane gets royally flamed on her own thread!!!!!)


It's a long thread, but she gets smacked around plenty.
47 posted on 01/02/2007 11:27:38 AM PST by rottndog (While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
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To: rottndog

Wow, my bad. I thought Dane was a dude. If I had known I was dealing with a left-lane driver, I wouldn't have expected a reasonable discussion. <;-)


48 posted on 01/02/2007 11:34:06 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze

That's OK. I have a theory that Dane is actually an automated response Bot, spewing out preprogrammed nonsense that doesn't require any logic.


49 posted on 01/02/2007 11:42:52 AM PST by rottndog (While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
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To: Dane

"IMO, a deep current of marxist rhetoric(i.e anti-private business)"

Why are you so against LEGAL businesses operating within the law Dane?


50 posted on 01/02/2007 11:49:29 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: rottndog

My impression too was that Dane was
male but one who knew no boundaries -- like a transnational sodomite.


51 posted on 01/02/2007 11:51:26 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Dane

"and the far right hates business because of who they employ providing those goods and services."

Stupid remark. The far right (law abiding businesses) hate having to compete with lawbreakers.


52 posted on 01/02/2007 11:51:47 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Dane

"...entitled to a govt. largesse for his profession of being a medical researcher, while he scolds those who do such good things such as build shelter or grow food."


Illegally, you forgot.


53 posted on 01/02/2007 11:52:44 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: rottndog
That's OK. I have a theory that Dane is actually an automated response Bot, spewing out preprogrammed nonsense that doesn't require any logic.

LOL, I love how yunz bring in selectively searched news headlines and ad hominems to try to attack those who wish not to stereotype a whole ethnic group on the basis of some bad individuals.

Using your "logic" the actions of jeffrey dahmer and ted bundy, who murdered appx. 40 innocent people between them, should represent every person in America of European extraction.

54 posted on 01/02/2007 11:53:46 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Phone extortion coming from behind bars in Mexico
Houston Chronicle ^ | Jan. 2, 2007 | MARION LLOYD

Posted on 01/02/2007 11:12:18 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

Mexico now rivals Colombia as the hemisphere's kidnapping capital, with an average 1,200 abductions a year, according to the government.

MEXICO CITY — Mexico's fastest growing crime racket is being run out of the big house.

All an inmate needs is a cell phone — smuggled in with a reported $5,000 bribe to guards — and a list of potential victims.

Then the lucrative game of telephone extortion begins. The criminals call at random, and the message rarely varies: "Hello, we've kidnapped your son. Pay up, or you will never see him again."

Sound too simple to be true? Think again. In a country ranked among the top kidnapping havens in the world, such threats are chillingly effective.

And they're skyrocketing — from eight reported telephone extortions in 2001 to 3,753 in 2005 — according to local newspaper reports citing the Federal Investigative Agency. The agency, Mexico's equivalent of the FBI, had registered another 1,647 complaints nationwide by mid-September, the latest figures available.

Agency and prison officials did not respond to repeated requests for information or interviews. Experts, however, say the real number of extortions is probably 10 times as high, because most crimes go unreported in Mexico.

"Those figures are just the tip of the iceberg," said Jose Antonio Ortega, a lawyer who practices in criminal courts and serves as president of the Citizens Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice.

Perhaps more alarming, the Federal Investigative Agency estimates that 80 percent of the calls are made from inside prisons, often by experienced kidnappers who continue to ply their trade from behind bars.

Ransoms range from $50 to tens of thousands of dollars, experts say. Victims pay either by depositing money in specified bank accounts or buying cell phone cards and providing the callers with the access codes. The callers then use those cards to continue the extortion.

"That shows the measures adopted within some prisons, like blocking cell phone signals, have failed to stem the problem," the agency concluded in a recent report, according to El Universal newspaper.

"Obviously, this is due to the negligence or collusion of the Federal District authorities," said Ortega.

His group compiled figures on the number of accused or convicted kidnappers in Mexico City jails. They tallied 532 convicted and 186 awaiting trial.

"That's a lot of potential extortion artists," he said.

The criminals find easy prey in Mexico.

"They don't have to say much to scare you nearly to death," said Lucero Serrano, a 60-year-old biologist who was a victim of telephone extortion in September.

"They told me they had my son and they were going to kill him if I didn't deposit money into an account," Serrano said. When the callers kept referring to her son, a grown man, as "the child," she knew it was a ruse.

"I was so scared, but then I realized they had no idea who they were calling," she said.

Like most residents of this teeming metropolis of more than 18 million people, Serrano is no stranger to crime. Her house in the upscale San Jeronimo neighborhood has been burgled 17 times, she said, once at gunpoint.

However, the kidnapping threat left her shaken.

Extortionists capitalize on that fear, reportedly hitting pay dirt in 15 percent of their attempts.

"The problem is that they make you feel like they know who you are, even if it's all a lie," said a Mexico City business executive who has been involved in anti-crime campaigns.

Despite his experience, including once negotiating a kidnapping ransom, he fell prey to a telephone extortion in 2004.

"They said, 'Listen carefully. We've been watching your family, but we don't want anyone to get hurt,' " recalled the man, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of jeopardizing his crime-fighting credentials.

The callers demanded $20,000. But to his surprise, they accepted just $350 after he insisted he couldn't get so much cash on short notice.

The government is aware of the problem but seems helpless to stop it.

Hazael Ruiz, the new director of Mexico City's eight prisons, told reporters in December that fighting telephone extortion was among his top priorities.

Last year, telephone companies began putting messages on all calls made from public phones inside prisons, alerting recipients of their origin. Prison authorities have also tried blocking cell phone service in prisons.

But those efforts have largely failed, partly because neighbors have complained about losing their own service, said Oscar Tukumaga, a criminal lawyer who frequently visits clients inside the city jails.

Moving north?

Former Mexican Attorney General Daniel Cabeza de Vaca acknowledged before leaving office on Dec. 1 that many of the drug lords jailed during his watch continued to run their businesses from behind bars.

However, the executive and anti-crime activist offered a silver lining to the telephone extortion problem.

The chances of tourists being victimized are "incredibly remote," he said, since callers target Mexicans whose names appear in local phone books or cell phone lists.

Business may be so good in Mexico that some enterprising crooks are setting their sights north of the border.

After the recent kidnapping of Laredo businessman Librado Piña Jr. and his son, the Texas city suffered a raft of extortion calls to local residents, according to the FBI.

The caller was a Mexican man who threatened to hurt businessmen and their families if they didn't wire money into Mexico, the Laredo Morning Times reported.

Local FBI agent Norman Townsend, speaking to a Morning Times reporter, summed up the criminals' modus operandi.

"These people," he said, "are capitalizing on the fear factor and are out there to make a quick buck."

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55 posted on 01/02/2007 11:55:06 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
And building a neo-Berlin wall will make the problem go away?

Remember the communist Soviets tried the same thing and their problems never went away.

The basic principle is called putting your head in the sand and in history it has not worked.

56 posted on 01/02/2007 11:59:11 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
"Maybe you should look at the good small private business does, instead of being like nancy pelosi and try to choke small business to death, because you do not like the people who such "evil" people such as shelter builders and food growers employ."

___________________________________________________________

Out of all the moronic, stupid things you EVER wrote here on FR, this absolutely takes the cake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe YOU should try to RUN a damned small business LEGALLY and see how hard it is to COMPETE with a-holes who employ illegals!

Your stupidity regarding ANYTHING actually relating to the topic of actually RUNNING a small business in a legal fashion is astounding.

Dane, your arguments carry no weight and are devoid of any validity because you constantly side with the LAWBREAKERS!
57 posted on 01/02/2007 12:00:01 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Dane
If the Republicans in the House had supported their President then the results would be closer to the 'conservative' agenda. Instead the rabble rousers on the far right called the President's plan, amnesty and guaranteed the far left partisans will now do their dishonest best to put President Bush in a corner.

One lesson I would hope the Republicans learn this time around is that if you remain loyal to your leader you will prevail. And a further lesson for the right is that when you disrespect your leader you are booted to the curb by the electorate. And when an insignificant minority of the party such as the true conservatives claim ownership of the Republican Party and are allowed to condemn moderate Republicans as RINOs, then it is time to make them understand that a majority ofRepublicans are comprised of more than hard right social conservatives and could be permitted to claim the Pat Buchanans and Tom Tancredos of the world are the actual RINOs.

58 posted on 01/02/2007 12:06:17 PM PST by harrowup (At least President Bush will have a competent Congress to deal with in 2007.)
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To: taxed2death; Red Boots
Maybe YOU should try to RUN a damned small business LEGALLY and see how hard it is to COMPETE with a-holes who employ illegals!

Yuh know maybe you should actually try to run a small business by yourself, and not be at the whim of immigration nanny do gooders such as yourself and Tom Tancredo, that only put more regulations on small business, ala nancy pelosi.

Tough on Immigration

BTW, Tom Tancredo hgas never worked in a for profit private business. The vast majority of his career has been on the taxpayer dime(i.e public school teacher or legislator).

59 posted on 01/02/2007 12:06:37 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Yes it is, by the millions.


60 posted on 01/02/2007 12:11:22 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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