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To: freedomfiter2
Wrong. Punishment changes the perspective. A selfish individual may still want to steal his neighbors car, but the likelyhood and severity of punishment makes it not worth it to him. He still is acting out the desires of his heart.
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You are talking about how and why he controls his will.

If he's a meat puppet he can't control his will, no matter what the threatened punishment is. Therefore punishment is useless.

You can't be selfish or generous if you're a meat puppet. You do everything you do the way you do it because you're a meat puppet. You have no free will.
34 posted on 01/02/2007 7:35:13 AM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cheburashka

You are talking about how and why he controls his will.


No, I'm talking about how and why he controls his actions. A will that you can control isn't free. If you are saying that your mind can control your will then what makes some want to control their will and others not?

Not having a free will doesn't mean we are meat machines it simply means we will tend to make choices that often contradict what our intellect says is logical.


38 posted on 01/02/2007 8:24:33 AM PST by freedomfiter2 ("Modern, bureaucratic, unionized education is a form of intellectual child abuse." Newt Gingrich)
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