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To: shrinkermd

" Daniel C. Dennett, a philosopher and cognitive scientist at Tufts University who has written extensively about free will, said that “when we consider whether free will is an illusion or reality, we are looking into an abyss. What seems to confront us is a plunge into nihilism and despair.” "

Funny -- this plays into an idea that I've been playing with for a little while now.

I throw this out for what it's worth --

"The core difference between the Conservative Mindset and the Liberal, is that Conservatives believe in - and accept - "free will"; Liberals don't."


2 posted on 01/02/2007 5:13:39 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: Uncle Ike
" Daniel C. Dennett, a philosopher and cognitive scientist at Tufts University who has written extensively about free will, said that “when we consider whether free will is an illusion or reality, we are looking into an abyss. What seems to confront us is a plunge into nihilism and despair.”

If he believed that, how could he be capable of writing those words? It's like all those leftists, published in paper, TV, and internet, saying that America stifles their free speech.

30 posted on 01/02/2007 7:04:30 AM PST by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: Uncle Ike

Good point.

LOL. . . . So a Calvinist Conservative is a contradiction in terms?

I think a number would protest that conclusion.


36 posted on 01/02/2007 7:39:49 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Uncle Ike
Not sure it's really relevant as such. Like Clinton had trouble defining the meaning of the word "is", when it was convenient to do so, these "intellectuals will redefine "free will" as it fits their own anti-God agenda.

Free Will is a Biblical concept to demonstrate that God loves us so much, He will allow us to do what we decide to do, regardless of what He wishes for us. His granting of Free Will is an act of supreme humility and what makes him a loving God instead of a fascist tyrant.

To take a definition out of context, then use the perverted definition to "prove" it doesn't exist is asinine. Of course, most self-named "intellectuals" do tend to be asinine, but their Kool-Aid always seems to find some parched lips...

37 posted on 01/02/2007 7:42:03 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Uncle Ike
I throw this out for what it's worth --

"The core difference between the Conservative Mindset and the Liberal, is that Conservatives believe in - and accept - "free will"; Liberals don't."

I prefer the explanations given by Thomas Sowell in A Conflict of Visions.

His thesis revolves around the concept of the "constrained" versus the "unconstrained" vision of the world. Conservatives generally accept that there are real constraints--absolute laws of physics, economics, etc, absolute good and evil, etc.--within which a person must function.

Liberals don't think that way, and that all such constraints are arbitrarily imposed by others. In short, they tend to deny/ignore reality and seek to operate in defiance of it.

41 posted on 01/02/2007 8:36:09 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Uncle Ike
"The core difference between the Conservative Mindset and the Liberal, is that Conservatives believe in - and accept - "free will"; Liberals don't."

Liberals accept free will, they just belive the free will of the collective imposed by the government supersedes their personal free will.

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs". Karl Marx

87 posted on 03/11/2007 1:00:26 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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