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Angry Talk ... (DRATS, Not even Barack Obama can save us now)
NRO ^ | January 2, 2007 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 01/02/2007 4:34:39 AM PST by IrishMike

So the Democrats won the election. Is there any less anger in our politics for that? Not as far as I can tell. To be sure, you’ll find some relief on the Left, and a bit of smugness as well (the latter stemming more from our troubles in Iraq than from the election itself). But are we back to sweetness and light, say, on the web? I don’t think so. That is exactly why Peter Wood’s new book, A Bee in the Mouth: Anger in America Now scores a direct cultural hit. America has entered an enduring age of anger, and Peter Wood is the able (and unruffled) chronicler of that epoch. I doubt that even Barack Obama can save us from our anger now. That’s because the anger that lately pervades our politics is more than just an aftereffect of six years of Democratic setbacks (although the strikingly angry Democratic response to their six bad years does call for an explanation). Our political anger is only the most impressive expression of a much wider cultural transformation. In politics, in music, in sports, on the web, in our families, and in the relations between the sexes, American anger has come into its own. Wood says we’re living in an era of “New Anger,” and regardless of who becomes our next president, New Anger isn’t going away anytime soon.

Anger Old and New What exactly is New Anger? Let’s find out by first having a look at Old Anger. Before we lionized all those angry anti-heroes — from Jack Nicholson in the movies, to John McEnroe on the tennis court — Americans admired the strong silent type: slow to boil, reluctant to fight unless sorely provoked, and disinclined to show anger even then. Gary Cooper in Sargent York comes to mind.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anger; congress; democrats; elections; infantile; senate
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Interesting article.
1 posted on 01/02/2007 4:34:42 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
I don't think we are so very different from our ancestors. Old Hickory would have scared the pee out of today's nastiest Bush-basher.
2 posted on 01/02/2007 4:41:15 AM PST by rhombus
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To: IrishMike

This article makes me very angry.


3 posted on 01/02/2007 4:48:44 AM PST by pke
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To: rhombus

" I don't think we are so very different from our ancestors. Old Hickory would have scared the pee out of today's nastiest Bush-basher. "

I think that's the point that the author(s) were trying to make -- that in previous generations (and I have direct experience with my father, in my youth), true expressions of anger were rare, and by virtue of that rarity, a truly terrible, yet impressive, thing to see, nay, experience.

The "New Anger" as described is characterized by its ubiquitousness (is it proper to question the spelling of a made-up word?), and also by its ineffectiveness.


4 posted on 01/02/2007 4:53:32 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: IrishMike
Well, now - this just PISSES ME OFF!!!!!
5 posted on 01/02/2007 5:04:09 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Uncle Ike
I really need to read this book. The review alone struck me as the explanation for a lot of what is disturbing me about politics and the nation as a whole. To further illustrate the author's points, here are a few examples:

1. Why is Rosie O'Donnell angry? She has everything she should want...career, family, fame, money. Is she really that angry, or is her method of communicating anger? Why is her behavior acceptable?

2.Can anyone name a prominent democrat of the last 10 years who has managed to make a political speech without contempt for his opponent or the personalization of the race?

3. In line with the above point, why are so many Freepers contemptuous of the President because he ISN'T displaying public anger?

4. Rap music. I need say no more.

5. The increasing number of violent episodes in high schools, mostly because people are ANGRY because of slights which in my day wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.

I could go on and on, but I think it unecessary to make my point, which is that if Freepers will objectively look at this article (and perhaps read the book) we might understand something about our country, our opponents, and even ouselves.

6 posted on 01/02/2007 5:11:43 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Uncle Ike

My grandfather, who lived to be 99, was rarely angry. He coached high school wrestling and football and was big on sportsmanship and fair play. In my whole life I saw him angry one time, and it was because a vandal had let a cow out of a fenced pasture and she had been hit by a car.


7 posted on 01/02/2007 5:14:44 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple; Chi-townChief

The decline of our old ideals of self-mastery and reserve both caused and flowed from the unraveling of the family.
From the article, and this kind of struck me.....

What remained was a vast new realm of restlessness. According to Wood, the effect was strongest, not in the baby boomers who first broke with the old emotional restraints, but in their children. The boomers, after all, for all their rebellion, were raised in the shadow of traditional emotional norms. Yet the children of the boomers have grown up with still less restraint, and this, says Wood, has produced a personality type that both lacks and craves self-definition.


8 posted on 01/02/2007 5:15:18 AM PST by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

Not only interesting, but it also goes a way toward explaining the crassness and meanness that I see in comedy since the arrival of "The Simpsons." Much of the comedy in modern film comes from the ritual humiliation and debasement of others - I can think of a dozen scenes from "American Pie" and "South Park" - and this idea of New Anger neatly fits into it. Thanks for posting this.


9 posted on 01/02/2007 5:15:58 AM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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The Left has seen its taken-for-granted cultural monopoly threatened, of late, while the right, after decades of cultural decline, has merely suffered the frustration of its hope for a broader traditionalist restoration. So, over and above any character differences between liberals and conservatives, the freshness of the threat to liberals’ self-perceived “right to rule” evokes proportionally more deafening howls of rage. Wood’s careful dissection of such Left/Right differences is one of the best parts of the book.

I read the whole piece. Sounds like a fascinating book. Thanks for posting.

10 posted on 01/02/2007 5:16:29 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Perhaps. I must admit the article seemed to go on and the short attention span of my generation revealed itself. I still think that ALL previous generations should not be judged by the "Depression" and "WWII" generation. That was my point and why I brought up Andrew Jackson who used to scream and holler at everyone. Further, we used to have people caning each other in Congress. If this is not a "true expression of anger" then I don't know what is.


11 posted on 01/02/2007 5:18:14 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Miss Marple
"4. Rap music. I need say no more."

Apparently, yes you do. Make up your mind, is it rap or is it music? It can't be both.
12 posted on 01/02/2007 5:18:32 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: rhombus

" should not be judged by the "Depression" and "WWII" generation. "

That generation is the only one I have intimate experience of (I wasn't that close to my grandparents) -- and I, personally, think it makes a pretty good benchmark.


13 posted on 01/02/2007 5:22:48 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: IrishMike

" The decline of our old ideals of self-mastery and reserve both caused and flowed from the unraveling of the family. "

Perhaps an oversimplification, but I wonder if the difference between "Old" and "New" anger is the difference between "Righteous Anger" and "Self-righteous Anger"...

Just a thought......


14 posted on 01/02/2007 5:26:35 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: Lee'sGhost
LOL! Touche!

In my opinion, it is not music, but rather rhythmic "poetry". To my untrained ear, ALL rap music sounds like this:

da DA da da da da da-da da da...repeated over and over again with drums and odd instruments clanging in the background, with an occasional recognizable word (ususally an unrepeatable one).

15 posted on 01/02/2007 5:28:17 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: IrishMike
Well I have to say I am politically angry.

But for the most part I try not to let go on display.

Restraint is an honorable trait. Throwing it in everyone's face in the name of honesty is not.
16 posted on 01/02/2007 5:29:51 AM PST by DB
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To: Uncle Ike
Your words on self-mastery remind me of the present era's opposite trait...self-indulgence. To my parents and grandparents era, there was something wrong with people who were flashy, called attention to themselves, overspent, etc. We are living in a very different time.

I wonder how much of the self-indulgence (and anger...which is also self-indulgent) can be traced to modern media's glorification of appearance, "lifestyle", and "self-expression."

17 posted on 01/02/2007 5:31:54 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: DB
Correct behavior, in my opinion. I doubt that President Bush is not angry about the behavior of the democrats. He has enough character not to display it in public, which apparently the democrats (thinking of Kerry and Gore especially, as well as Mrs. Clinton) do not.

It is the acceptance of the public display of anger amongst the prominent that is causing the deterioration in public discourse.

18 posted on 01/02/2007 5:34:20 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

The Hildebeast is not angry, she is just "sick and tired".


19 posted on 01/02/2007 5:44:50 AM PST by bytesmith
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To: bytesmith

Well, she sure SOUNDS angry.


20 posted on 01/02/2007 5:48:06 AM PST by Miss Marple
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