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To: AmishDude

Definition of elite:

1. privileged minority: a small group of people within a larger group who have more power, social standing, wealth, or talent than the rest of the group

The Founding Fathers and Federal judges fit this definition. So do Senators. This does not mean they are better people (far from it).

And as far as master's degree holders in Mathematics are concerned, they are elite compared to the rest of us when it comes to math. For that matter, math teachers are harder to find because their subject has a higher market value in the private sector. This does not make them "demigods" -- just more valuable.

The idea that an untrained person can be a successful SCOTUS Justice, as some have argued on this thread, is proof of total ignorance of what lawyers and judges do. If that is "elitism" then so be it.

Nobody on this thread would bisit an amateur dentist of doctor or accountant. Yet people think that the Law is so simple anyone can interpret it. Hilarious.

That said, their is way too much inbreeding among our "elite" political leaders. Lately our Presidential nominees seem to be mostly Yale and Harvard men. I don't think an Ivy League education should be a prerequisite for top political nominations -- this isn't France.


263 posted on 01/01/2007 10:37:32 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Do you remember in history of the birth of our great nation we revolted against many of the governments which now have built a stronghold within what was the PEOPLE'S. it was established in the premise that wealth had nothing to do with social standing. You were just rich! Now unfortunately as time always manages to do, the greed of the rich, elitist, manage to own the very ground we walk on and the air we breath and could surely take it even from you. But, to keep this under foot, they would even convince their distinguished followers that they are not being treated in a manner which is less than suitable for their needs, or even the needs of a lowly blue collar that's putting the addition on their guest house for ten thousand less than the original bid.
273 posted on 01/01/2007 10:50:48 AM PST by new2NV
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To: You Dirty Rats
"I don't think an Ivy League education should be a prerequisite for top political nominations -- this isn't France."

Mind reader...

275 posted on 01/01/2007 10:51:07 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
And as far as master's degree holders in Mathematics are concerned, they are elite compared to the rest of us when it comes to math.

Everything is mathematics. Everything. Every bit of science is either a (possible renaming) of a mathematical concept, taxonomy or experimentation. All high-order thinking is mathematics at its core.

The idea that an untrained person can be a successful SCOTUS Justice, as some have argued on this thread, is proof of total ignorance of what lawyers and judges do.

Unless they program jury-vacs like on The Jetsons, it's pretty much talkin', readin' and writin'.

Nobody on this thread would bisit an amateur dentist of doctor or accountant.

All true. However, what great theory or idea of dentistry is beyond the reach of a well-educated person? If I can quote my dermatologist, "We don't know what causes that." Do you know what that refers to? Anything I ask him, actually. With respect to accountants, again it's arcane work but if you can find somebody who can't understand debits and credits, I would love to meet him. These professions involve some skill and expertise, but much more so than a judge.

Or are you saying we live in a oligarchy of the law profession where government is of the lawyers, by the lawyers and for the lawyers?

These professions are also only lucrative (with the exception of accountancy, they aren't particularly well-paid) because they are piece work. If the dentist wants his hygenist to do all the work, then he has to pay her out of his own earnings. But if he's willing to work, he can pay more hygenists and take more patients. Oh, there's another reason that the medical profession has been lucrative (it is less so now, particularly because of lawyers), and that is that medical schools have artificially restricted the supply of doctors.

Yet people think that the Law is so simple anyone can interpret it. Hilarious.

It had better be. We serfs are expected to follow it.

this isn't France.

BTW, France has no world-class university anymore. Just a useless bit of information.

For that matter, math teachers are harder to find because their subject has a higher market value in the private sector.

You would think so, but the union (a monopoly) ensures that there is not much difference in public education salaries and middle school math teachers are not required to have a math degree.

282 posted on 01/01/2007 11:02:22 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Sorry but your logic does not compute.

Lawyers are, by nature, POND SCUM. Do not give them any more due than they deserve.

The Constitution does NOT require a law degree to be on the Supreme Court.

I would trust the opinion of the average idiot on the street as much as a federal judge.

Once they get appointed and confirmed for LIFE, they are little GODS and know it. They are not desperate for cash.


369 posted on 01/01/2007 2:15:52 PM PST by packrat35 (guest worker/day worker=SlaveMart)
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