[Anti-Bubba182]

"The irony is that Islam was once the most sophisticated an learned culture in the world."

That was true until the Christian West freed itself from an Orthodoxy that surpressed science and individual choice. Islam got worse and paid the price. They are not getting better.

[tomcorn]

The further Irony is it was the borrowings from Arab science that allowed the west to shake off that crippling orthodoxy while somehow Islam took the opposite lesson and adopted the crippling orthodoxy the west rejected.