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To: tgambill

FYI - the Scheck article was discussed extensively on another thread last week. It does NOT show 275,000 west african troops. It states there were 275K troops in the Tirailleurs Senegalais - a French colonial unit that actually included members from all parts of Africa. 10% of them were French European officers. Sheck stated that 122,000 of them were conscripted in the French West African colonies prior to the 1940 surrender, but only half of those actually made it to France before it fell. Nowhere in the article does Sheck give a muslim percentage of those troops. It may also be safely assumed that the non-mobilized conscripts who were still in West Africa fell under control of the Vichy regime, which was able to hold onto the West African colonies (though not the non-muslim colonies to its south). Some of them even ended up fighting for the Nazis in the aforementioned Vichy colonial units.


220 posted on 02/20/2007 12:04:43 PM PST by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: lqclamar
It states there were 275K troops in the Tirailleurs Senegalais - a French colonial unit that actually included members from all parts of Africa.

West Africa, not all of Africa.

Nowhere in the article does Sheck give a muslim percentage of those troops.

2/3 of the recruitment pool were Muslims, as Echenberg ably demonstrated. You have since ably demonstrated your willingness to ignore the facts presented by Echenberg.

Sheck stated that 122,000 of them were conscripted in the French West African colonies prior to the 1940 surrender, but only half of those actually made it to France before it fell.

You're either playing with numbers again, or you're lying outright. Scheck is unambiguous in stating that 100,000 troops in France. Two-thirds of them were on the front lines and the rest were completing training behind the lines or in transit. Also, the number of Europeans was, 9,622 -- less than 10%.

"The overall number of Tirailleurs Sénégalais deployed in France between September 3, 1939, and June 25, 1940, was 100,000, but around one-third of them were still in training or in transit when the armistice took effect; see “Troupes Coloniales en 1939 – 1940: La mobilisation et la pe ́ riode d’attente,” L’Ancre d’Or Bazeilles, no. 256 (1990), 27 – 38. For a list of soldiers mobilized in France’s colonies in 1939 – 40, see Fargettas, “Le massacre des soldats,” 2:26. Altogether, over 122,000 people were mobilized in French West Africa before the armistice, including 9,622 Europeans (mostly officers). The Tirailleurs Sénégalais made up the lion’s share of the colonial troops (275,354 men, total), followed by the Indo-Chinese units (88,898 men). "

Some of them even ended up fighting for the Nazis in the aforementioned Vichy colonial units.

Patently false.

222 posted on 02/20/2007 12:16:19 PM PST by zimdog
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