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To: Don Joe
I will have to read through this, Neuro-linguistic programming.

It's strange there. I asked someone who years ago, was in my membership class, what she thought of the changes ... she said like you, I didn't like them ... as she is saying this her face is full of disdain, then she continues, but NOW, I love it! It's as though a light bulb went off. As I mention how uneasy I am about all this, it's as though someone turned off the light bulb and she got red faced, cut me off and hurriedly excused herself.

It was weird. Another one who had been there as a Sunday School teacher hadn't bothered to become a member. They'd go to ad adult service then teach Sunday School. They'd been doing this for about 20 years. In the service they attended they were told that ONLY official members, would have access to financial statements. Non members would not have access to this. Boy, were they RIGHTFULLY offended. Last I heard they're still there ... .

It's such a strange "club" mentality. A few years ago, I missed church for about two months. I was at another church, checking out their tone because I wanted to send my daughter to their preschool and also find about more about the PreK - 8th grade program. Since it was church connected I thought it would be prudent to check the church out thoroughly.

Instead of getting a phone call like, "hey where've you been", "we've missed you" or "is anything wrong" etc. I received a letter that if I didn't show up in two weeks my membership to this church would be revoked. THAT really angered me. I didn't show up so it was revoked. Even after that I still attended until I just couldn't stand the lack of reverence, meat in sermons and the entertainment atmosphere. By this time Rick Warren's approach had taken over a Biblical based and driven church. It just wasn't church anymore for me. I had to get out for good!
931 posted on 01/03/2007 11:13:05 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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It's strange there. I asked someone who years ago, was in my membership class, what she thought of the changes ... she said like you, I didn't like them ... as she is saying this her face is full of disdain, then she continues, but NOW, I love it! It's as though a light bulb went off. As I mention how uneasy I am about all this, it's as though someone turned off the light bulb and she got red faced, cut me off and hurriedly excused herself.

It was weird. Another one who had been there as a Sunday School teacher hadn't bothered to become a member. They'd go to ad adult service then teach Sunday School. They'd been doing this for about 20 years. In the service they attended they were told that ONLY official members, would have access to financial statements. Non members would not have access to this. Boy, were they RIGHTFULLY offended. Last I heard they're still there ... .


There was a movie a few years back (a remake of an older movie), by the name of "The Invasion of The Body Snatchers"

If you've seen it, you're probably remembering it as you watch the Warrenization of America.

In that story, people were "taken over" (you've all heard the phrase "pod people") by "pods". They looked the same -- but they were no longer the same people (or for that matter, people, period!)

Once taken over, they began obeying the rules of the hive; the master plan was to keep placing pods where they'd be able to take over their victims ("outreach"!) (Put a pod under someone's bed, and when he falls asleep, he's taken over.)

Eventually, almost the whole world had been "podded". (It's HARD to stay awake all the time!) When a non-pod-person was spotted by one of "them", they'd stop what they were doing, point at him, and let out a loud squeal, as they began moving in on their target like white corpuscles homing in on a paramecium.

I think it's time for me to rent a copy of that film again...

948 posted on 01/03/2007 11:50:32 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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