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To: nmh
I believe Rick Warren would agree with you. As I see it, part of the problem is you're not really reading what I'm writing. I said: the Holy Spirit is convicting people to a saving knowledge of God through Warren's ministry.

Rick Warren is doing what he believes God is calling him to do, the Holy Spirit does the actual work. And if that happens through Warren's ministries then I'm going to rejoice the Body is growing through Warren's ministries.

571 posted on 01/01/2007 8:42:17 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: scripter; nmh; Sue Perkick; TommyDale; Arizona Carolyn; DocRock; Gamecock
(Man, just when I wanted to haul off to bed...)

Rick Warren is doing what he believes God is calling him to do, the Holy Spirit does the actual work.

Did God call him to play those games with Farah, saying he didn't say what he actually did say in Syria? Saying that he didn't tape anything, when he really did? And then pulling his tape offline when confronted with it?

Did the Holy Spirit do the actual misrepresntation for him?

Be real careful how you answer those questions. This is heady stuff...

578 posted on 01/01/2007 8:50:58 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: scripter

AMEN.


583 posted on 01/01/2007 8:56:40 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: scripter
the Holy Spirit is convicting people to a saving knowledge of God through Warren's ministry.

I dunno. I have yet to hear the gospel preached clearly by Rick Warren which would result in a saving faith. And since I spend a LOT of time listening to him for someone halfway across the country, that's saying something. It should be something he does at every opportunity, but he doesn't.

He also criticizes those ministries that criticize him even though they also are bringing people to a saving faith. So is it right to criticize/judge people's teaching or not? If not, I would argue that that extends not only to religion but to politics as well and we certainly have no right to judge what these other 'christian' politicians (like John Kerry?) have to say.

I guess one of the ushers at Saddleback was complaining to Chris Rosebrough

listen here (part 1)
and here (part 2)
and here (part 3)

that it's VERY hard to get people to actually get involved. I guess it's that faith without works thing huh...

Either that or they realize that the kind of 'works' Rick Warren has in mind aren't the kind of 'works' James had in mind.

700 posted on 01/02/2007 11:24:05 AM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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