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To: nmh
I'm not an apologist for Rick Warren, but I've seen a lot of petty accusations against him and I've seen some blatant and complete misrepresentations of what he's said and from his book The Purpose Driven Life. Please understand I'm not saying you've done any of what I just mentioned. I've also seen valid and accurate criticisms of Warren.

One thing I can't argue with is the Holy Spirit is convicting people to a saving knowledge of God through Warren's ministry.

537 posted on 01/01/2007 8:15:24 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: scripter

"One thing I can't argue with is the Holy Spirit is convicting people to a saving knowledge of God through Warren's ministry."

I can.

It's not Rick Warren's doing. He's not convicting anyone with his lies and humanistic teachings.

When a person seeks HIM, He will be found. They would have found the Lord with or without Rick Warren. Rick Warren doesn't call the shots - God does.


545 posted on 01/01/2007 8:21:08 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: scripter
...One thing I can't argue with is the Holy Spirit is convicting people to a saving knowledge of God through Warren's ministry.

Maybe more like... despite Warren's ministry.

546 posted on 01/01/2007 8:21:50 PM PST by doubtfire
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To: scripter

[...the Holy Spirit is convicting people to a saving knowledge of God through Warren's ministry...]

I've noticed the same thing. People are talking about Jesus because of PDL. I'd say that's fruit.


569 posted on 01/01/2007 8:40:59 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: scripter

One thing I can't argue with is the Holy Spirit is convicting people to a saving knowledge of God through Warren's ministry.
= = =

INDEED.

And the proper Biblical response is not therefore to undermine and throw rocks ruthlessly, relentlessly, wholesale and only.


577 posted on 01/01/2007 8:49:51 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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