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To: pby
"Although man has tremendous potential for good..."? Really...Is this what Scripture says? So you have moved from the Meet the Press interview, that you alleged gave no reason for concern (but it should have), to Saddleback's belief statement...(always having to move the goalposts).

That caught my attention also...but you left out the rest of the sentence > "he is marred by an attitude of disobedience toward God called "sin". This attitude separates man from God. Gee I wonder why you left that out?

Again you like a few other here skim right over all the truth of God in this statement and point out the one thing you find fault with. 557 words and you find nothing to agree with but the statement you don't...revealing ain't it!

Great you say there is something(s) in Meet the Press interview that I/we should be concerned with. Can you point them out please?...no one else has....other than listing Bill Clinton as born again President....so damming and then just well it is all throughout this thread bs. Yea where? I haven't seen it.

Just what goalpost am I moving....still discussing Rick Warren and Saddleback. I am more than happy to discuss MtP interview if it is more than baseless accusations. No one has given word one on any heresy or unAmerican thing Warren said in interview. Maybe you can step up to plate.

1,163 posted on 01/05/2007 1:14:59 PM PST by free_life
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To: free_life
Is the statement, "man has a tremendous potential for good" biblically accurate?

This is a stand alone question.

When you are done with that, then we can also look at the accuracy of the statement, "he is marred by an attitude of disobedience toward God called "sin"".

Is sin really just an attitude of disobedience toward God?

I already posted a lengthy post, to you, pointing out an issue in the Meet the Press interview...must be you skipped over it. It is there...not too long ago.

I did not skim over the belief statement.

A little bit of leaven...

1,164 posted on 01/05/2007 1:31:42 PM PST by pby
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To: free_life
Maybe you can step up to the plate

I already did...see post# 1106.

1,168 posted on 01/05/2007 1:40:41 PM PST by pby
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