Posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:18 AM PST by Gamecock
FEMA Recruits Ministers to Promote Martial Law to Congregations
To: Don Joe; processing please hold"That's how it began life (as a forecasting tool, when originally developed for the feds by RAND), but it has morphed into a form that is very effective for FORMING "consensus".
Check these out:
http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/1998/nov98/focus.html
http://www.exorthodoxforchrist.com/the_delphi_technique_and_rick_warren.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2e1f024e20.htm "
May 25, 2006
FEMA Recruits Ministers to Promote Martial Law to Congregations
A minister has revealed to Prison Planet a nationwide FEMA program which is training ministers and other religious representatives to teach their congregations to “obey the government” in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.
In March of this year the Pastor, who we shall refer to as Pastor Revere, was invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter which circulated around preparedness for a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.
The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to “obey the government” when martial law is declared.
It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the “cowboy mentality” of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure. It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that “this is for their own good.”
If it’s “cowboy mentality” to stand up for property and gun rights, we can only hope we still have enough “cowboys” left in America. Fortunately, only about 20% of Americans actually attend church regularly (compared to the 40% who say they do), so the FEMA statist propaganda will only reach a fifth of the population even if every minister in America preached it. Of course, Police State USA has the Mainstream Media ready, willing, and able to preach to the other 80%.–Prison Planet
http://michaelpaladin.com/blog/2006/05/25/fema-recruits-ministers-to-promote-martial-law-to-congregations/
297 posted on 01/03/2007 11:42:14 AM EST by Kimberly GG (PATRIOTS MARCH TO "TAKE BACK AMERICA" (www.lframerica.com ))
(forgot to ping you to the previous post)
Now THIS is a good case for separation of church and state!
(BTW, nice formatting)
I believe that happens all the time here. In post 850 you said:
Like worker bees, driven to a frenzy by pheromone signals, they will attack whatever they perceive as a "threat" to The Hive. No thinking involved, no need to understand, to comprehend... just a primal obedience to chemical signals.It cannot be denied that freepers, and Christian freepers at that are labeling those who defend Warren and his purpose driven model many disparaging names and terms. I can tell you from first hand experience that it gets really old really fast. And yes, I realize both sides engage in this behavior.
Perhaps we should all read Colossians 3:12-14 before posting:
Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.I want no part of a Christianity that eats its own.
Just how much worse can it get? Ministers? I have to process that for a moment.
No problem...in case you didn't click on the prisonplant link, it is in greater detail...also, I know I've seen an article written BY the minister who attended these meetings, somewhere on the net...I'll try and find it. In the meantime:
Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors as Pacifiers in Preparation For Martial Law
Nationwide initiative trains volunteers to teach congregations to "obey the government" during seizure of guns, property, forced inoculations and forced relocation
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | May 24 2006
A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.
In March of this year the Pastor, who we shall refer to as Pastor Revere, was invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter which circulated around preparedness for a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.
The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.
It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the "cowboy mentality" of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure. It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that "this is for their own good."
We have received confirmation from other preachers and Pastors that this program is a nationwide initiative and a literal Soviet model whereby the churches are being systematically infiltrated by government volunteers and used as conduits for martial law training and conditioning. The Pastor was told that over 1,300 counties were already on board.
It falls under the umbrella of the NVOAD program which is training volunteers in a "Peer to Peer" program in a neighborhood setting.
Pastors were told that the would be backed up by law enforcement in controlling uncooperative individuals and that they would even lead SWAT teams in attempting to quell resistance.
Police provide cover for a FEMA house-by-house search in New Orleans.
"We get the the picture that we're going to be standing at the end of some farmer's lane while he's standing there with his double barrel, saying we have to confiscate your cows, your chickens, your firearms," said Pastor Revere.
The Pastor elaborated on how the directives were being smoke screened by an Orwellian alteration of their names.
"They're not using the term 'quarantine' - this is the term they're going to be using - it's called 'social distancing' don't you like that one," said the Pastor.
He also highlighted how detention camps had been renamed to give them a friendly warm veneer.
"Three months ago it was quarantine and relocation centers and now it's 'community centers' and these are going to be activated at the local schools," he said.
Pastor Revere outlined the plan to carry out mass vaccination and enforced drugging programs in times of crisis such as a bird flu outbreak.
"In the event of an outbreak or a bio-terrorist attack, there'd be a mass vaccination....they have a program nationwide 'Pills in People's Palm In 48 Hours'," said the Pastor who was told that Walmart had been designated as the central outlet of this procedure.
Pastor Revere said that many attendees believed in the necessity of the program and were completely unaware to the motivations behind its true purpose and were offered incentives to become volunteers such as preferential treatment and first access for themselves and their families to vaccines and food shipments in times of emergency.
Which roads to close off after martial law was declared had also already been mapped out.
The precedent for mass gun confiscation in times of real or manufactured emergency was set during Hurricane Katrina when police and national guard patrols forced homeowners even in areas unaffected by the hurricane to hand over their legally owned firearms at gunpoint as is detailed in the video below.
In the following video Alex Jones exposes FEMA's deliberate sabotage of Hurricane Katrina relief efforts which were used as a platform for a beat test of forced relocation and gun confiscation.
Alex Jones' 2001 documentary film 9/11: The Road to Tyranny featured footage from a FEMA symposium given to firefighters and other emergency personnel in Kansas City in which it was stated that the founding fathers, Christians and homeschoolers were terrorists and should be treated with the utmost suspicion and brutality in times of national emergency.
We have highlighted previous training manuals issues by state and federal government bodies which identify whole swathes of the population as potential terrorists. A Texas Department of Public Safety Criminal Law Enforcement pamphlet gives the public characteristics to identify terrorists that include buying baby formula, beer, wearing Levi jeans, carrying identifying documents like a drivers license and traveling with women or children.
A Virginia training manual used to help state employees recognize terrorists lists anti-government and property rights activists as terrorists and includes binoculars, video cameras, pads and notebooks in a compendium of terrorist tools.
Shortly after 9/11 a Phoenix FBI manual that was disseminated amongst federal employees at the end of the Clinton term caused waves on the Internet after it was revealed that potential terrorists included, "defenders of the US Constitution against federal government and the UN, " and individuals who "make numerous references to the US Constitution." Lawyers everywhere cowered in fear at being shipped off to Gitmo.
In December 2003 the FBI warned Americans nationwide to be on the lookout for people reading Almanacs as this could indicate an act of terrorism in planning. Almanacs are popular glove box inventory of any vehicle and this ludicrous fearmongering was met with a raucous response from satirists and news commentators.
In another twilight zone Nazi-like spectacle, Pastors were asked to make a pledge or an affirmation during the meeting to fulfil the roles ascribed to them by FEMA. They were given assurances that they would be covered by full compensation in the event of resisters injuring them during property seizures and round-ups.
The Pastor said that his county had already succumbed to a tattle-tale like mentality where neighbors were reporting neighbors to the authorities for things like having chickens in their back yard. The brown shirt precedent has been set whereby people immediately turn to the authorities in fealty whenever their paranoid suspicions, fueled by zealous government and media fearmongering, are heightened.
Pastor Revere said the completion of the first stage of the program was slated for August 31st. At this point all the counties within the United States would be networked as part of the so-called disaster relief program.
We issue a challenge to all of our readers to print off this article and the supporting documents and confront their local preacher with it. If they don't receive a response within a week they should investigate further into whether their preacher is involved and hand out information to other members of the congregation.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/240506femaplan.htm
"So you notice that Jesus was at Matthew's house, right?"
Was Matthew a believer at that time? His house was the same as before and his friends, publicans and sinners, were comfortable being there around Matthew and Jesus. The only people who weren't were those who were more interested in the status quo of religion than they were of sinners, the religious people, the Pharisees.
I bet they use Y2K as a reason to invoke Martial Law.
Warren ain't our own.
2Pe 2:1 MKJV But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who secretly will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.
Uh oh. So much for "separation of church & state". I guess the government has its own definition.
"The Gospel does not change, the way it is represented does depending on the audience..."
So there is an audience with felt needs and an audience without?
Is "shaping the Gospel" the same as using different delivery and illustrations?
In Acts 17 (the passage most PDers use to justify shaping the Gospel to meet felt needs), Paul's evangelism was fueled by distress/anger over the number of idols in Athens (verse 16).
So he, then, first reasoned, from the Scriptures, in the synagouge and in the marketplace with the Jews and with the God fearing Greeks, day by day (verse 17). His reasoning consisted of the preaching of the good news about Jesus and the resurrection (verse 18).
A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him and then took him to a meeting of the Areopagus (verses 18&19).
Paul pointed to their idols and told them, "In the past God overlooked such ignorance , but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead." (verses 29-31)
Verse 34 states that, "A few men became followers of Paul and believed."
The message didn't really change in front of the different audiences and it certainly didn't appeal to, or was not shaped, to the people's felt needs. It also was not widely popular.
:)
Not sure we want to know. But I have a feeling we're going to find out anyway.
While I don't agree with some of what Warren does and says, I disagree with you here. While I cannot know his heart either way, nobody but God really knows. But my comment was in reference to how Christians on this forum treat each other.
If I'm not mistaken you said something earlier that created the impression that you are a lawyer (" I have an important argument in court tomorrow"), so I am not surprised that you are quite good at term-reframing.
If I knew what you were talking about I might be able to respond, but carry on with whatever. You made the comment, "There is such a thing as being "unequally yoked with unbelievers," and I do believe that Master Rick has mastered it". I simply ask the question, "when did the disciples, the twelve and the seventy, become "believers"?"Matt. 9:10-13, "And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
But you're not perfect at it.
Sorry, but it won't wash. The New! Cheap! Sexy! "Gospel!" may try to create an "everything is everything" mishmash, devoid of "boring stuff", but the fact remains that there is a wide gulf between evangelical outreach, and the communion of the Body of Christ (which, at the heart of it, is what "church" IS).
Warrenites want to bring unbelievers into communion with the Body of Christ.
Christians do not want to accept this heresy.
That is the bottom line -- and that is why the Warrenites are going nuts doing everything they can to muddy the issues, create diversionary digressions, and in short, make people look anywhere but there.
Unfortunately, I experienced the same thing (and they did change the name).
After a two year battle, I left as well.
Thankfully, God has provided an excellent Bible-teaching/preaching church ( and the sermons aren't purchased and repeated verbatim).
Why Y2K?
I'd rather face the monster I know than the one I can't see.
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