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Looking Behind the 'Purpose Driven' Sheep's Clothing
Cybercast News Service ^ | December 29, 2006 | Christopher G. Adamo

Posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:18 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock; lightman; sionnsar; Huber

Rick Warren endorses the New World Order "UN Millennium Goals"/"ONE Campaign", and wants to make them the center of the Christian Church.

He and Episcopal ultra-heretic Katharine Jefferts-Schori are two sides of the same coin!!!!


1,061 posted on 01/03/2007 8:05:49 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Don Joe
I have left the conga line and have headed for the 24/7 prayer room with J Dawg.

We are going to paint some icons and light the incense. We also have to hook up the computers so that the people can access www.sacredspace.com to pray with St. Ignatius and the Pope.

If you come down, please bring the Hindu temple music. We want to be playing that in the prayer room to give a total sensory experience.

Take your shoes off when you come in...We already put down the prayer mats and sit pillows. It is going to be so cleansing!!!

Congrats on the tat and piercing!

I have to be honest. I just don't know if I can be that relevant, yet...just trying to be authentic.

Well until then, I'll wear my hair messy, get highlights, wear a choaker and play the bongo drums in the emergent worship service. PEACE!

1,062 posted on 01/03/2007 8:26:39 PM PST by pby
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To: scripter
There were no definition problems today.

Love is what drives most people to refute false teachers and to warn/protect the Church from the wolves.

Like it or not, and despite your nephew's salvation during the PDL, Warren has all the signs of a wolf.

His recent episodes with Syria and Obama are just fruits of his faulty, unbiblical teachings and methods.

It is not unloving to point this out.

1,063 posted on 01/03/2007 8:39:21 PM PST by pby
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To: pby

Like it or not, my point continues to fly over your head, again, and again and again. Because of this I will not respond to your posts for an indefinite time period.


1,064 posted on 01/04/2007 3:50:35 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: scripter

I seriously doubt you are in a "seeker-sensitive" church if you are dwelling on sin. Sin is a verboten word in seeker-sensitive churches. It implies that a person is "bad".


1,065 posted on 01/04/2007 4:53:46 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: pby

You laugh but one of the techniques of the SSC is to bring in traditions from other faiths to make seekers more comfortable. Remember, the key is to get them in the door. Then supposedly, they get the Gospel. But they never seem to get that because it might make them leave.


1,066 posted on 01/04/2007 4:57:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: pby; scripter; nmh; Sue Perkick; TommyDale; Arizona Carolyn; DocRock; Gamecock
His knickers are in a twist because us dum unkooth hix are failing to be sufficiently deferential towards His Rickness.

It's bad enough for us to be critical of Lord Warren, but even that might be tolerated (to an extent), IF we were decent and civil enough to couch our words in a reasonbly obsequious tone, demonstrating the trappings of reverence if not outright obeisance toward The Man.

It's really no different, when you get down to it -- other than in degree (at the moment at least) -- from the ubiquitous "taking offense" demonstrated on a daily basis by devout Muslims.

With Islam, it's one thing to disagree with "The Prophet Mohammed" -- but, you WILL refer to him AS "The Prophet Mohammed" (a lesson the mainstream media has already learned) -- and before too long, you'll learn to apply the "(PBUH)" to his name. (I wouldn't worry about "having to" actually type out the entire "Peace Be Unto Him", since even the Muslims aren't required to do that much. Of course, on the other hand, the laws of dhimitude often do place more stringent obligations on the "infidels" than on the dar es islam -- so who knows?)

With Warrenism, the same rule is applied -- and, the media "watchdogs" have learned it, just as they've learned to be obediently reverential to "The Prophet Mohammed".

And as a proof of that sad reality, consider this: Even though it is inevitable that ol' Mo is termed "The Prophet Mohammed" by the talking heads, have you EVER heard them refer to "The Messiah Christ", or "The Savior Jesus"? (I mean, when referring to Him, NOT when making a direct quote in a story. They DO casually refer to you-know-who as "The Prophet", but they don't apply the same "respect" to Christianity. But then, Christians don't pose the same risk, when one offends them.)

The practitioners of the Gospel of Creative Destruction have clearly drawn a line in the cement. They WILL be "respected" -- they will be lavished with the trappings of "honor", no matter how much one might actually disagree with them.

They have established the basic ground rule -- they will be afforded the rank of de facto "royalty", just as the representatives of the Holy See enjoyed during its reign over the land.

Men -- strong men, soldiers and such, men who would be feared in their own right -- trembled before Cardinals and Bishops, lest they offend those who held the real power in the land.

And if one thing is obvious, it's that Warrenism is rapidly becoming THE Official State Religion of the land.

Welcome to the New! Improved! Exciting! "Holy Empire"!

(New, Improved, Etc. -- and every bit as terrifying and ominous as the OLD model upon which it's framed.)

Lord Scripter pinged lest he whine that one as lowly as I -- disrespectful toward Lord Warren as I might be -- dared to reference him in a comment without pinging him. So, I now brace for the possible "if I do/if I don't" alternative, i.e., getting chewed out FOR pinging him to something he does not enjoy reading.

BTW, the key to his Royal Indignation is found in post # 1028, where it becomes crystal clear that us "resistors" (to coin a phrase) are only to be tolerated if we bow and scrape before Lord Warren. How dare we fail to show Respect to the Cardinal of Saddle?

1,067 posted on 01/04/2007 5:10:37 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: pby; nmh; Sue Perkick; TommyDale; Arizona Carolyn; DocRock; Gamecock

Like it or not, and despite your nephew's salvation during the PDL, Warren has all the signs of a wolf.
Matthew, Chapter 7:

22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

1,068 posted on 01/04/2007 5:25:07 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: AppyPappy
I seriously doubt you are in a "seeker-sensitive" church if you are dwelling on sin. Sin is a verboten word in seeker-sensitive churches. It implies that a person is "bad".

I'm going to say something that I hope you really hear, not just read. Here is my response to your above comment: "Gee, I've never heard that before."

Of course that's sarcasm. I have friends who have said the same thing. They've told me all kinds of things about my church that I didn't know. They were wrong, of course, and after hearing some sermon messages on CD they decided to come visit my seeker-sensitive church. Boy, were they surprised to hear the gospel message. They continually asked us how we could claim to be seeker-sensitive. I couldn't help smile.

Just because a church identifies as seeker-sensitive does't mean the Sunday worship services ignore the gospel message. I'm sure that's true for some churches, seeker-sensitive or not.

1,069 posted on 01/04/2007 5:53:11 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: Don Joe

Thanks for taking some netiquette into consideration as I really appreciate it. But let me be clear: I don't want you pinging me. Please demonstrate some character and honor this request.


1,070 posted on 01/04/2007 6:00:04 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: AppyPappy
Yes...I was in a SSC.

I understand the methodologies.

Unfortunately, the humorous postings were, in reality, very close to the goings on in the SSC/emergent churches.

No Gospel..."just your reservation in heaven".

1,071 posted on 01/04/2007 6:19:42 AM PST by pby
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To: Don Joe

Let's not forget Saddam Insane. Why look at the out pouring of love for this man! Yes, if we look hard enough evil will be good and good will be evil.


1,072 posted on 01/04/2007 6:21:07 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: pby

I can't wait till the Rickster goes to North Korea and comes back saying how they're such nice people and we've got it all wrong.


1,073 posted on 01/04/2007 6:22:42 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: scripter
Which point?

And how have I not addressed your specific posts?

Is virtual ignore a loving act?

1,074 posted on 01/04/2007 6:28:33 AM PST by pby
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To: Don Joe
"And as a proof of that sad reality, consider this: Even though it is inevitable that ol' Mo is termed "The Prophet Mohammed" by the talking heads, have you EVER heard them refer to "The Messiah Christ", or "The Savior Jesus"? (I mean, when referring to Him, NOT when making a direct quote in a story. They DO casually refer to you-know-who as "The Prophet", but they don't apply the same "respect" to Christianity. But then, Christians don't pose the same risk, when one offends them.)"

No, calling Christ a Savior of any kind would be judgmental and exclusive. How dare you state the HE is the ONLY One and the only way.

John.14:6

[6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

No, no, no. Can't "offend" people with such single minded bias. I'm being facetious.

They, the media, KNOW they can get away with trashing Christ and all He stands for. Unlike the Muslims, Christians not only tolerate it, many embrace it and see themselves as very "inclusive".

Christianity is exclusive. No doubt about that, however it is INCLSUIVE, since all are asked to be part of His Kingdom.
1,075 posted on 01/04/2007 6:35:37 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh
When Warren goes, will he be representing Saddleback, the PEACE Plan, the Council on Foregin Relations, the United States or a combination thereof?

And what will be the real nature of his visit to North Korea?

1,076 posted on 01/04/2007 6:39:38 AM PST by pby
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To: pby
I went through some posts of the last couple of days and decided to change my mind. Since you have ignored my points, continued to changed the subject and are now are asking "which point," I have decided that life is too short to waste precious life moments repeating myself with someone who completely ignores what I've written.

This should be quite clear: please don't ping me again.

1,077 posted on 01/04/2007 6:41:37 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: scripter

As I predicted, damned if I don't, damned if I do.

Very well, Your Majesty -- I shall strive my utmost to avoid troubling you with any more evidence of my existence. However, I make NO promises, as I do NOT always scrutinize "who said what" before dashing off a casual comment.

So, should your humble servant inadvertently fail to honor your demand, I beg your mercy, etc.

Until then, so long, and Have A Nice Day!

(PS: your tone, unless I'm mistaken, is that of one who is bone-weary of having made the request repeatedly -- however, I do not recall any prior time at which you demanded that I write you out of my universe. So, please demonstrate some character of your own, and get off your high horse. And while we're at it, let's invoke the Sauce for the Goose doctrine, and have YOU honor MY request to not comment to ME anymore. TUVM/etc.)


1,078 posted on 01/04/2007 6:59:15 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: pby

Ah, whatever you want him to be is what he'll be. I doubt that he's fussy about that.


1,079 posted on 01/04/2007 7:04:19 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Don Joe
I shall strive my utmost to avoid troubling you with any more evidence of my existence. However, I make NO promises, as I do NOT always scrutinize "who said what" before dashing off a casual comment.

I realize those things can happen and if they do you'll be given mercy. You have my word on that. I ask the same of you.

And no, I haven't made this request of you before. But yes, I am bone-weary of something, and that is the lack of the fruits of the Spirit in this thread.

May God bless you in ways only He can.

1,080 posted on 01/04/2007 7:08:29 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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