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To: Paul Ross
[That's how long the war will last.] {Wow. That is way, way, too long.} [Did you have a point?] Yes. A long, drawn-out-war-of attrition...

The original comment was about the time it took for an ICBM to get here. How does that relate to a war-of-attrition? Stay on the subject.

Actually, your remarks are empically invalid

You mean "empirical"?

Definition: 1. 1. Relying on or derived from observation or experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis. 2. Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment: empirical laws. 2. Guided by practical experience and not theory, especially in medicine.

We were talking about total war against a major nation state, not car bombing. The original subject was keeping heavy manufacturing for war preparation within the US, remember? How does a number of car bombs make it necessary to do that? We could purchase weapons to fight such an enemy anywhere in the world, and that enemy could not prevent it, thus such a war does not justify trade protectionism to retain that heavy industry.

Those car-bombs are being freshly manufactured right under our noses, evidently...

Demonstrating that car bombers don't require trade protected industrial production. We don't either.

421 posted on 01/03/2007 3:53:06 PM PST by narby
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To: narby
The original comment was about the time it took for an ICBM to get here. How does that relate to a war-of-attrition? Stay on the subject.

I was on subject. Your thesis that we would ever actually use nuclear weapons again with the PC lobby ruling the roost...was denied.

Anyways, we are not alone in having ICBMs, you know. China has a secret mutual defense pact with Russia. They also have their most advanced missile designs...and stole our solid-rocket fuel technology. Hence their DF-31, and the new SLBMs with very advanced range, and payload capability.

How does a number of car bombs make it necessary to do that? We could purchase weapons to fight such an enemy anywhere in the world, and that enemy could not prevent it, thus such a war does not justify trade protectionism to retain that heavy industry.

You don't know any of those points. And empirically, they are dubious. We learned throughout our history, from the War for Independence forward...how critical it was to have industrial autonomy. Ready domestic supplies for what we need. Preached over and over again by George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, and eventually...even the agricultural idealist Thomas Jefferson got the message...after his disastrous War of 1812.

And as GWB should have learned when the Swiss withheld componentry at the last minute from our cruise missiles in the Iraq invasion. And other elements for British hand grenades.

And the Swiss are likely the least of our worries...as we are now outsourcing key stuff to China.

422 posted on 01/03/2007 4:24:16 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: narby
Those car-bombs are being freshly manufactured right under our noses, evidently... Demonstrating that car bombers don't require trade protected industrial production. We don't either.

So you want to wind up like Iraq?

423 posted on 01/03/2007 4:25:40 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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