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To: Arizona Carolyn
I'm not certain it's fair to lable pragmatism as liberalism.

"Pragmatism" is usually another word for shortsightedness, in my opinion. To put it another way, the short term gains that might be gained by the compromise of core principles is usually negated by the much worse long term consequences of that compromise. The evidence? The long term erosion of our constitutional form of government.

Beyond that, it is hard for me not to label folks who regularly attack conservatives as liberals. If they're not liberals, I don't know how to can discern any measurable difference, given their tactics and seeming goals.

848 posted on 12/29/2006 10:45:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Pragmatism" is usually another word for shortsightedness, in my opinion. To put it another way, the short term gains that might be gained by the compromise of core principles is usually negated by the much worse long term consequences of that compromise. The evidence? The long term erosion of our constitutional form of government.

Why don't you explain to us all how putting Harry and Nancy in charge helps stave off the erosion of the Constitution?

Beyond that, it is hard for me not to label folks who regularly attack conservatives as liberals.

What's hard for you is to comprehend that when people crizitize YOU they aren't criticizing "conservatives." In fact, most of us here ARE conseratives.

Just not ones you and Alan et al. could convince to vote for him.

863 posted on 12/29/2006 10:50:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh, so Ronald Reagan was "shortsighted"; was he? He was a pragmatist and gave a whole speech about being one. I suggest that you find it and get someone to read it to you and to also explain it to you.


864 posted on 12/29/2006 10:51:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: EternalVigilance
To put it another way, the short term gains that might be gained by the compromise of core principles is usually negated by the much worse long term consequences of that compromise.

So true. In the short term, we become a police-state. In the long-term, we no longer represent the country once founded.

Short term gains are not worth overthrowing liberty. Screw those that embrace the notion.

901 posted on 12/29/2006 11:08:53 PM PST by budwiesest (There is no small government party. Yet.)
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