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To: Joseph DeMaistre

Hello Folks and Happy New Year,

Jan 01, 2007 and also my first post (signed up with FR today).

Where can I pose questions on this topic? I know most fora have FAQs and appropriate places to post and I would like to follow those guidelines.

In the meantime, I'd like to post - first -- the background and then the question.

Background:

Over time I had participated in a couple fora that were political in nature. In those fora, the topic of homosexuality came up. In a recent case, the focus was on the propriety of having homosexuals in the military. It seemed to be divided into two camps:

Veterans (including myself) who opposed homosexuals in the military, and

Civilians who had never served, supporting it.

Problems in both forums came when I posted URLs to studies showing how homosexuals were quite different from heterosexuals, had a much higher incidence of acquiring HIV/AIDs and had other other nasty habits as well, making them unsuited for a variety of reasons.

In both cases, the mods deleted the posts, even though they were not accompanied by personal attacks or vilification, just studies.

On the other hand, anyone who opposed homosexuals and supported traditional values was personally attacked as biased, bigoted, hateful, stupid and homophobic.

There was no chance to show our side of the discussion because the mods had injected themselves into the debate, had clearly taken sides and deleted info that exposed the weaknesses of their position.


Question:

One of the methods used by the pro-homosexual side was to say that psycholgical 'studied showed' that those who opposed homosexuals were they themselves hiding their own latent homosexuality.

This struck me as akin to those accusing Jesus of being in league with the devil when casting out demons ('you cannot serve two masters.." etc.)

Has anyone published a study exposing this as a homosexual psycho-babble debating tactic?

It has all the earmarks of Leftist debate methodology all over it.


10 posted on 01/01/2007 11:30:09 AM PST by Move_Zig (Maybe these explain it...)
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To: Move_Zig

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

This link may interest you -

"Science told: hands off gay sheep"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1760458/posts


11 posted on 01/01/2007 11:34:25 AM PST by airborne (Duncan Hunter For President!)
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To: Move_Zig; scripter

Although a tech-dunce, am posting a few links that should give you lots of reaing and plenty of factual ammunition:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts
Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Revision 1.1)
(the mother of all homosexual compendiums, more recent articles down the long thread)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1625067/posts?page=1
"Gay" Adoption:Letters Florida Bar News.(Lawyers misrepresenting danger,Only one view barf alert)
(Comment three has tons of links to great articles)

and last but not least, scripter's home page - scroll down the page and you'll find a lot of articles, by topic, about homosexuality, the homosexual agenda, and the "ex-gay" movement:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~scripter/

(pinging you, Scrip, since your name is in the post: Happy New Year!)


16 posted on 01/01/2007 12:19:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: Move_Zig

I studied psychology in graduate school, and I was taken aback by how most of the major thinkers in the world of psychology were also Marxists. Maslow, Piaget, Fromm, etc.

We need to drain the swamp of emotivism in our culture and society. Pope Benedict XVI has it right when he emphasizes the importance of reclaiming Platonistic/Aristotelian reasoning.

I could probably list half a dozen logical fallacies undergirding pro-homosexual arguments.


17 posted on 01/01/2007 12:46:08 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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To: Move_Zig; scripter
You are on the right forum, and as far as your other question..........David Kupelian's The Marketing of Evil. It spent a long time on the NYT best sellers list, much to their disdain, and is an excellent read. Also, scripter, for one, has a huge compilation of research etc, on this subject.
18 posted on 01/01/2007 3:14:28 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: Move_Zig; All

Welcome to FR by the way.

Happy New Year, to you and everyone else too!


19 posted on 01/01/2007 3:18:52 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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