Since yours is a spirited discussion that all of us want mediated, allow me to posit that the great Ronaldus Magnus proposed and got granted an Amnesty in 1986.
We probably don't need such measures now, but it kills me to see brothers fighting, when all of our resources are sorely needed.
The things he has said on this thread about a man of character and integrity are vile.
btw, it's been nice talking with you, Jeff. I hope we 'meet' somewhere again here on FR.
I voted for the guy, even kicked $X,XXX to the Swift Boat Vets during the '04 election, because I know and detest Democrats.
During the recall Rose Bird campaign, I was on my cop union PAC. The Demos really wooed us, hoping to get one cop union to break from the fold and join them in supporting her. We all shared a few adult beverages, really got them to let their greasy hair down. Several of them admitted to being 'Communist in orientation', but were quick to add, "But not on the Soviet model".
I'm a lifer as far as the "R" party goes, but right now it has jumped the track so to speak.
So when a Republican President proposes adding 12 to 20 million new voters, 80 to 99% of which will vote Democrat...?
Not to mention the enormous increase in welfare rolls? Remember, Reagan signed the Amnesty bill which denied the Amnesty beneficiaries welfare for the first five years.
Nowhere that I can find, has anyone proposed restricting the welfare eligibility.
And Reagan's Amnesty bill also had series penalties for hiring illegals.
But Dubya has even been more lax than Slickmeister in enforcement.
Spiff if you're there insert the chart.
Finally, if you've seen my home page, you know I don't really believe we have two competing political parties. The only reason I stay involved in politics is that I don't want every politician to think sticking a pair of scissors into an unborn infant's head is acceptable.
And after that little stunt in Hawaii involving Dog Chapman, I'm going to point out a certain emperor has no clothes.