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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; monday
Vn_survivor_67-68

what is your best guess as to the percentage of the Spanish citizenry who are descended from previous muslim dominance of Spain?

By asking that as I did, I wish for you to disregard current and recent islamic imports, whether they are nationalized or not.


Who knows. Roman Spain, Hispania itself, was a mix between the original Iberians and the Celts and people from all around the Roman empire, that is, the Mediterranean. Then came the Germans, and then the Muslims. Many Muslims were Moors, that is, habitants of Northern Africa, -Mauri, as the Romans called them- or moved from the Eastern Mediterranean, so they were not "racially" different from the previous Roman immigrants.

The "picturesque", for the Anglosaxon world, Spanish Inquisition was created to religiously homogenize back the population. The people that did not want to comply with it were expelled in 1492 (Jews) and 1609 (Muslims). I guess every Spaniard has at least two semitic ancestors, one Arab and the other Jew, after 500 hundred years, that is 25 generations, of interlinking.

That is not the point, Vn-survivor. Muslim extremism is taking roots vigorously in Europe because the old Left, orphan after the collapse of the Soviet Union, share common objectives and the same hate to the Western World with those Muslims. Check Fernando Huarte role in 3/11. He is a high rank official of the Spanish Socialist Party and an intelligence informer.

monday,

The guys who did 9/11 went to strip clubs and hung out at pool halls. They wern't very Islamic either.

Do not confuse terms, please. There are sinners in all religions. I knew a Muslim that liked very much champange, and said it was simply a sin. You know about the guys of 9/11, they could committ some sins because Allah would forgive them all after their sacrifice.

However, Jamal Ahmidan's entire life, the physical evidence, does not match in any point with an Islamist or even a religious person. He was a criminal, a man who liked cash and good living, a man with a Spanish woman and a Catholic son. His complete profile does not fit in the case. Why was he artificially involved then?
7 posted on 12/28/2006 2:48:14 AM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar
"Why was he artificially involved then?"

Can't say I really care. BTW his life, and death, seems far from amazing. Pretty boring actually. Why do you care if he was "artificially involved" or not? He was an idiot and a criminal.

If you are worried your government is covering up some grand conspiracy, you shouldn't be. Governments are generally just stupid and wrong, not smart and cunning. Ahmidan was probably included simply because it was convenient.
8 posted on 12/28/2006 6:36:39 AM PST by monday
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