[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Ho hum, just a matter of time before someone went and drug the fall of the poor old Roman Empire into a discussion where it is irrelevent.

BTW, The Goths didn't come over the Rhine.

[rmlew]

Ho hum, just a matter of time before someone went and drug the fall of the poor old Roman Empire into a discussion where it is irrelevent.
Heaven forbid one bring in historical anology.
Should I have brought up the San Patricanos in the Maxican American War?
I believe in the military as earned citizenship, but I recongnize that this has not always worked.

BTW, The Goths didn't come over the Rhine.
They certainly did.However, I was thinking of the Danube.