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To: GladesGuru
that neither wind energy notr alcohol have any possibility of significant impact on America's energy needs

(not sure what "notr" is)

I agree with the second half of your statement. I think it is ultimately a bad idea to have food and fuel be one and the same.

On the first half of your statement, I would wonder if you haven't had your head in the sand for since the 1970s. Windmills produce energy almost as cheaply as coal at around 3-5 cents/kwh at optimal conditions.

So you are way of on your information.

The major issue with wind is inconsistency, distance from market and ability to store it. These factors will and are being overcome everyday. Naturally they are very threatening to the power companies. For whom I would guess you are working and perhaps, given your spelling-police orientation, maybe for whom you are even writing propaganda and disinformation.

Essentially your statement says that since we cannot find alternatives and fossil fuels are by definition finite, our civilization is doomed. Amazing how to enviro-wacko left has taken the conservative mantle of optimism. I for one continue in the tradition on the conservative environmentalist and optimist about what can be achieved.

You my friend would have been warning Columbus that he would fall off the edge of the earth.

13 posted on 12/27/2006 1:25:52 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

LEt's make sure I understand you. You think that an energy source that is undependable, intermittent, difficult and expensive to store, ad nauseam - this is better than nukes?

WHat is wrong with burning coal? What about the oil we have here?

Why is it wrong for America to stop paying inflated prices to Muslims when that money HAS, IS, AND WILL BE used to atttack us?

The Crusades are back, remember? They started it, too.

So, after wanting to lead America down the enviro-socialist prim rose path, you think I am paid by some cabal of fossil fuel burners?

YOU ARE RIGHT!

I burn fossil fuels. Every day, and I even pay others to do the deed for me all night, too! My Rangie runs on gas, not moombeams, star dust, or even the fumes from some bong.

Alcohol requires energy to distill, and unless the whole process is done with junk cellulose, the whole process is a trading of one form of energy for another with increased complexity and make work jobs being the main product.

As for my exploratory drive, and how I would have advised Columbus, consider that those who know me recognize that that drive is waaaaay overdeveloped, and my sailing friends know that.

PS One of them regularly competes in races like the St. ete/ Isla Mohares (sp) race.

As for the edge of the world bit, if you find it, let me know and I'll split the profits from the exclusive rights to the video of it with you.

PPS Beware of the many false premises parading under the rubric of "We gonna do GOOD!" Edmund Burke long ago stated that those loudest for the public good had it least at heart. As a past member of Sierra Club's FLEXCOM, trust me when I tell you that enviro "initiaves" are to increase membership, get votes, and also to assure the donation/bequest flow.


14 posted on 12/27/2006 5:41:08 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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