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Bipartisan Effort to Draft Immigration Bill
NY Times ^ | 12/26/2006 | By RACHEL L. SWARNS

Posted on 12/25/2006 6:36:59 PM PST by Chesner

WASHINGTON, Dec. 25 — Counting on the support of the new Democratic majority in Congress, Democratic lawmakers and their Republican allies are working on measures that could place millions of illegal immigrants on a more direct path to citizenship than would a bill that the Senate passed in the spring.

The lawmakers are considering abandoning a requirement in the Senate bill that would compel several million illegal immigrants to leave the United States before becoming eligible to apply for citizenship.

The lawmakers are also considering denying financing for 700 miles of fencing along the border with Mexico, a law championed by Republicans that passed with significant Democratic support.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; atzlan; bushamnesty; crimaliens; illegalaliens; illegalswin; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; itsallover; mccain; reconquista
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To: photodawg

Unfortunately, too true. Right now on Fox I'm watching a discussion of this and Mike Gallagher said if McCain is playing to the moderates in the GOP he is hitting a home run... I find it hard to believe that many moderates enjoy watching their country being overrun or will enjoy the Marxists running this country for the next half century.


181 posted on 12/26/2006 9:28:10 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: outdriving
I think you have your history off by quite a bit. Up until 1965 immigration, of any kind, was pretty flat.

keep in mind when you are getting this volumn from one particular culture you then run the risk of changing everything about your country -- as we are because of our illegal immigration from Mexico and S. America.

Much as France has been irretrievaby changed by allowing too many people immigrate from the Muslim nations into France; it's too late for them to unring the bell. It's close to being the same here. I know it's politically correct to say this isn't a problem, but I'm through being politically correct. I want my country back.

If Mexican's can't come here and assimilate into OUR culture, language, neighborhoods, education, etc., then frankly, I want them returned to their country. You might want to take a few minutes and read this article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1084558/posts

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Scale | The causes of Mexican, as well as other, immigration are found in the demographic, economic, and political dynamics of the sending country and the economic, political, and social attractions of the United States. Contiguity, however, obviously encourages immigration. Mexican immigration increased steadily after 1965. About 640,000 Mexicans legally migrated to the United States in the 1970s; 1,656,000 in the 1980s; and 2,249,000 in the 1990s. In those three decades, Mexicans accounted for 14 percent, 23 percent, and 25 percent of total legal immigration.

These percentages do not equal the rates of immigrants who came from Ireland between 1820 and 1860, or from Germany in the 1850s and 1860s. Yet they are high compared to the highly dispersed sources of immigrants before World War I, and compared to other contemporary immigrants. To them one must also add the huge numbers of Mexicans who each year enter the United States illegally. Since the 1960s, the numbers of foreign-born people in the United States have expanded immensely, with Asians and Latin Americans replacing Europeans and Canadians, and diversity of source dramatically giving way to the dominance of one source: Mexico.

182 posted on 12/26/2006 9:42:30 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BW2221
While Bush's name wasn't on the ballot, his unpopularity cost the GOP a number of close races. Bush and Rove made a number of dumb decisions (e.g. if they were going to dump Rumsfeld, they should have done so in August).

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You prove my point. Ask yourself who was Bush most unpopular with? If you come up with Anti war pacifists, islamic terrorists, communists, socialists, and democrats you will discover who you just went to bed with my friend.
183 posted on 12/26/2006 10:07:23 AM PST by photodawg
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To: Chesner

Bush will gladly sign this, both because it's what he wants, and because he has shown himself to be a President who won't use the veto except once or twice every four or five years.


184 posted on 12/26/2006 10:13:02 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Small-L

I disagree with your premise, but regardless, it's apparent that the GOP didn't learn the lesson.

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No, its obvious you didn't learn the lesson. In order to make a point you put our worst enemy into power. And to this very minute you are still blaming the republicans for making you vote democrat. Please!


185 posted on 12/26/2006 10:16:25 AM PST by photodawg
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To: antisocial

Bush has already said he will be happy to work with the democrats to get his amnesty passed, just how is that going to help get republicans elected?



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What does he have left to do as a lame duck who we just castrated by taking away the republican majority from him. He's rope a doping his way to the finish line the best he can and you are still blaming him for making you vote democrat.


186 posted on 12/26/2006 10:19:05 AM PST by photodawg
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To: TomGuy
You are of the mindset Pubbies good; Dems bad. The trouble is, the facts don't always support that. Certainly not with regard to dealing with illegals.

And one more fact: Who signed one of the last major amnesty for illegals bills? Republican Ronald Reagan. Hmmmm.

Republican seems to keep popping up on the side of giving amnesty to illegals.

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One more time. Republicans patriotic American party who support the troops and the mission and who support capitalism and lower taxes. Democrats, pacifists, communists, socialists, anti American, high tax anti God, pro abortion party. Are you kidding me? Ask yourself who hates Bush and the republicans. If you answer pacifist, baby killing, taxaholics, then realize that's who you just climbed in bed with. Give me Ronald Regan anytime.
187 posted on 12/26/2006 10:25:47 AM PST by photodawg
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Unfortunately, too true. Right now on Fox I'm watching a discussion of this and Mike Gallagher said if McCain is playing to the moderates in the GOP he is hitting a home run... I find it hard to believe that many moderates enjoy watching their country being overrun or will enjoy the Marxists running this country for the next half century.



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All too true. If we had given McCain and the rest of them some more firepower in 06 instead of selling out to democrats this garbage would be impossible to pull off. We will have to sit through this bad movie until we get the horror flick, which will of course, be the nuke 9-11 round about 2010. God help us.


188 posted on 12/26/2006 10:43:08 AM PST by photodawg
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Something to do with the North American Union, perhaps.


189 posted on 12/26/2006 10:44:35 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"Not in this case, this is something he wants, and badly, though I cannot figure out why."

I hate to give up without a fight, and I can't figure out why he wants this so much, either. He could destroy the Republican Party with around 15 million new citizens, who have a history of voting for Dems.


190 posted on 12/26/2006 12:12:15 PM PST by Sun (*MERRY CHRISTMAS!* And during this beautiful season, let's all pray for good to win over evil soon!)
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To: photodawg

"..If we had given McCain and the rest of them some more firepower in 06 instead of selling out to democrats this garbage would be impossible to pull off. We will have to sit through this bad movie until we get the horror flick,.."

I hope the good guys like, Duncan Hunter, Tancredo, Ron Paul, et al, will fight like heck.


191 posted on 12/26/2006 12:15:12 PM PST by Sun (*MERRY CHRISTMAS!* And during this beautiful season, let's all pray for good to win over evil soon!)
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To: Sun

Oh, I agree we have to fight, but it appears the deck is stacked against us...


192 posted on 12/26/2006 12:15:34 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: corlorde

Okay, I agree it is probably a driving force in his thinking, but with two years to go, what is he going to gain from it? Politically he's finished if he does this and even if he doesn't since he cannot run again. Does he want to be known as the President that brought down the Grand Old Republican Party?


193 posted on 12/26/2006 12:23:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"Oh, I agree we have to fight, but it appears the deck is stacked against us..."

I hear you.


194 posted on 12/26/2006 12:36:38 PM PST by Sun (*MERRY CHRISTMAS!* And during this beautiful season, let's all pray for good to win over evil soon!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
It's hard to tell what he really believes, or what the people around him are telling him. It's even harder tell if there is information we don't have, that he basis his decisions on.
195 posted on 12/26/2006 1:49:50 PM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: Riverman94610
The Bushes,Kennedys,Clintons,Obamas and Pelosis of the world have never had to work at honest hard labor in their lives.

So what? Since when is being "white collar" considered not working and considered bad for America? This kind of class-based garbage makes me puke.

196 posted on 12/26/2006 2:01:40 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

So you call being a government bureaucrat WORK?Sure,there are white collar jobs that ARE difficult and stressful.I know.I've worked a few of them.
Do you think Teddy Kennedy ever did something that made him break a sweat on the job besides exercising his jaws?


197 posted on 12/26/2006 2:04:29 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610

A government employee can be among the hardest working people in America, e,g. WH staffers. So I wouldn't paint such a broad stroke.


198 posted on 12/26/2006 2:18:59 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Sun

www.escapeartist.com

Hubby and I have already picked out a small island for about 5 yrs down the road. Was a hard decision between that and a couple of Latin American countries. Still have our eye on one. Maybe do both.


199 posted on 12/26/2006 2:23:19 PM PST by sheana
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To: plain talk

Sure,there are exceptions.
I've worked private industry AND government jobs and I can guarantee you the tough work was in the private sector.
Ever heard the expression,"good enough for government work?".Not without truth.
Now Let me tell you a government job where you WILL work and work hard-substitute teacher in my current district!


200 posted on 12/26/2006 2:24:49 PM PST by Riverman94610
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