Posted on 12/25/2006 9:54:18 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
"People aren't killing each other for money. There are things no gun control law will stop. "
The question is "has gun control ever stopped anything." The answer: no.
Actually, Pennsylvania (which includes Philly) is a "shall issue" CCW state.
You cannot imagine how much better I felt having a "little friend" with me when walking to my car at 1 AM after doing late night software installation testing at a place in Philly
The problem is that a good chunk of the shooting involves rival drug dealers, and most people do not get CCW's, even when they can
If you look at Europe, the gun bans often result, unsurprisingly, in a huge rise in the rate of non-homocide violent crimes like rape or robbery.
The local newspapers here rarely publish the races of both the murderers or the victims these days.
According to this site, 95% of the murderers were African American.
Now it happens that all the murder suspects sought by the Philadelphia Homicide Squad were, in fact, minorities. The Philadelpia/Camden Violent Crimes Fugitive Task Force, keeps a list of all the local dangerous suspects here. This list of 69 suspects includes just two (2) white men - an Italian-American wanted for violation of federal parole, and an unknown man wanted in a road rage killing. There is, of course, such a thing as white crime in Philadelphia. The city has a Mafia, which is being brought under control as its members assimilate and give up the Old Country idea of omerta. And statistics show that one in twenty alleged Philadelphia murderers is a non-Hispanic white. Most Philadelphia murder victims are black - but whites, who make up 5 percent of the alleged killers, make up 11 percent of the victims.
Most of the homicides I've looked up on Philly.com's "Murder Map" are young black males, and thought to be gang-related or just "turf wars."
Michael Orlando, aged 43!, was delivering a pizza...how very tragic. Prayers for his family this Christmas.
A couple months (??) ago I found an article on one of the local paper's websites talking about the number of deaths of Philly police officers: it was STAGGERING when you realized those deaths were counted in the city's death figures - it was nearly 10%.
Mark
Camden and Trenton, perhaps?
I do a lot of work in Philly neighborhoods, including some pretty bad ones. Never have a problem.
I always go in there armed and I only go in between 10:00 PM and 3:00 PM.
we should redeploy all the tax payers immediately!!!!
A friend of mine went to Temple University, students generally had to "evacuate" the area before sundown for risk of their lives.
We happened to find a court to play basketball in Philly one day, I was the only white player on the court, and unfortunately for me, the best player. Each time I scored, I was greeted with elbows, cheap shots, etc. the guys on my team had nothing to say. I sensed I was in big trouble, while running down the court I veered off the court with my friend and we made a hasty retreat in his car before I became another unreported by the media victim of black on white crime.
Slide rules for slide hammers?
In this age of the majority minority population shift, are such demographics even relevant?
The Philly PD needs to redeploy to Pittsburgh!
I was born in and grew up in Philly - within walking distance of the Liberty Bell (no, I didn't crack it, silly).
While one had to be reasonably careful, it was possible to walk at night in comparative safety. I lived in West Philly - one of the very old neighborhoods and my mother and I walked at night with no fear.
Then I lived in NE Philly - same thing...reasonable care, but no fear.
I can remember waiting for the bus at night around City Hall - it was ok. Same on the subway/El.
Yes, it was many many years ago. One neighborhood I lived in was an immigrant neighborhood of struggling people, the others were lower middleclasss. The economics of the neighborhood had nothing to do with how safe - or clean - it was.
I went back to Philly to visit some of these neighborhoods in the late 1980's - and a couple of them resembled Berlin circa 1945. Toilets on the sidewalks, cabinets in the streets, light poles laying flat on the streets, some places looked fire bombed. My grandmother's street was a junk yard of torn houses - still being lived in, but completely torn up.
People lolling around, yelling, shouting, drunk, staggering around - and this was in the daylight. We didn't dare get out of the car and one Black lady very kindly told us to leave quickly. She meant it as good advice - not a threat. We took her advice.
Cry for the once fine city.
I have a brother that was a pretty top hoopster in high school and at 50 still can get on the court and show his skills.He occasionally finds himself to be the only white guy in the mix and when he has had problems with"the brothers",other black guys have stepped in and had his back because here respect for skills on the court trumps race.
We are out there in Cali,Bay Area to be exact.I have always heard East Coast is way more hard core and racially stratified,thus your experience.
Give a gun to every law abiding citizen and let them defend themselves.
Sounds like New Orleans when I left back in 93...
Pretty long day.
I left New O in 1977.Things were starting to fall apart even back then.A totally different place from when I arrived in 1972.Drugs were getting harder and the whole city had this really ugly vibe about it.
You would walk down Bourbon Street and see black thug gangs rubbing shoulders with pockmarked white teens strutting around wearing"White Power"t-shirts.
Back in 1973,I actually went to a couple of parties in Desire Project since many of my students lived there.In 1976,I went to a kids birthday party in the St. Thomas Project and the feeling was all good inside.Once I walked out,I had to really act the tough guy role when I navigated the cliques of young thugs loitering around wondering,"who is that crazy white boy?"
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