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ABANDONED PROPERTY: Legislator seeks windfall for state
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 25 Dec 06 | Sean Whaley

Posted on 12/25/2006 9:13:03 AM PST by rellimpank

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To: Vigilanteman
Merchants who choose to take money up front for expiring gift cards are setting themselves up for this type of big gubmint b.s.

Why? They do it with every other product. If you get a tie for Christmas and then try to return it 2 years later you won't get your money back then either. The gift cards are just another product that the merchants sell.

121 posted on 12/26/2006 7:42:47 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Beagle8U
Gift certificates rank right up there with lottery tickets and expired grocery coupons in the "Thoughtful gift" department.

I have to agree that basing your life decisions on what you see on the Man Show is probably not a good idea

Also, gift cards are a great gift. Using your example, if a person went to the Gap and spent $50 on something you didn't want then how would you be any better off. You could return it but then you face the problem of possibly hurting the giver's feelings and in either scenario you still have to physically go to the Gap.

With gift cards you don't have to know the person's size or what sort of clothes they prefer. If you know the store they like then that is good enough.

Gift cards also keep your house from filling up with useless "thoughtful" junk that people buy you Christmas. I'd much rather receive a $15 gift card from someone not very close than even a $30 "thoughtful" gift.

122 posted on 12/26/2006 7:48:48 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
If you get a tie for Christmas and then try to return it 2 years later you won't get your money back then either.

Dumb comparison for the obvious reason that you still have something of value-- the tie-- versus an expired gift card. In speaking of b.s. like this, it makes little difference to argue whether the general public is right. Public sympathy leads to legislation as with the minimum wage law.

It was a big issue on why we traded one of the best members of the U.S. Senate (Rick Santorum) for an empty suit (Bob Casey). Santorum was theoretically right in voting against the minimum wage increase. I would rather have a senator who was a little less pure on an issue which was of limited relavence than another empty suit rubber stamp for MoveOn.org.

123 posted on 12/26/2006 8:00:10 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman
Dumb comparison for the obvious reason that you still have something of value-- the tie-- versus an expired gift card.

Be careful that you understand what is being written before you play the "bs card".

A gift card is a product that the merchants sell. It is no different than a gallon of milk or a tie. You are confusing gift cards with store credits which are similar but two different things.

Do you think that if you buy a year's membership at a gym and never use it that you should get a refund after 2 years?

Many items are that are purchased at a store are completely valueless after two years - even if they were never used.

124 posted on 12/26/2006 8:13:12 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Vigilanteman
It was a big issue on why we traded one of the best members of the U.S. Senate (Rick Santorum) for an empty suit (Bob Casey). Santorum was theoretically right in voting against the minimum wage increase. I would rather have a senator who was a little less pure on an issue which was of limited relavence than another empty suit rubber stamp for MoveOn.org.

Well you know, GOP apologists probably should have spent more time explaining to the GOP that they had become the christian-socialist party and that it was going going to cost them the election since socialist voters vote for the Democratic party.

125 posted on 12/26/2006 8:15:59 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: digger48
I was in the Hospital for a biopsy and I was NPO for 24 hours, Leahey Clinic. I needed a coffee fix, I had a coffee Jones, real bad, the shakes, a real need for a caffeine fix.

My son, CW, named after a Mormon friend of mine who doesn't drink the evil brew, he doesn't either, pointed out a Star-bucks stand, swill, garbage, my Italian relatives would say "This is Espresso!!", with a throwing of arms, a low day in my life and a waste of $4.00"

126 posted on 12/26/2006 8:28:28 AM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Duh, for the children...


127 posted on 12/27/2006 6:35:37 AM PST by DB
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To: Fishtalk

The logic is, if someone gets screwed out of their money for whatever reason the benefiturary should be the government, not some private party... In other words, the government always gets first dibs...


128 posted on 12/27/2006 6:48:52 AM PST by DB
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places

self ping


129 posted on 12/27/2006 6:58:25 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: madison10
They must burn the stuff on purpose.

They do. When they roast their beans they do, in fact, over roast them to give them a distinct 'Starbucks' flavor.

130 posted on 12/27/2006 8:54:06 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: em2vn
...worst coffee I've ever had in my 50 years

Pure Bull S*^%.

I'm wondering just how it is that you know that his statement is BS. And just how is it that you know it is pure?

131 posted on 12/27/2006 8:57:14 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: digger48

I hate starbucks coffee but love the gift cards - if they are given to me. They have other stuff there. And you can always take it back for a refund and get the cash.

There were a couple of anti-Starbucks snobs I used to work with that would always give me the gift cards that they had received (lots of people and companies in the Seattle area tend to pass them out fairly frequently). I'd use them for emergency sandwiches for quick lunches and some hard items. It worked out to a few hundred dollars worth of stuff over time. It's just a "living off the fat of the land" sort of thing.


132 posted on 12/27/2006 8:58:33 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: rellimpank

Easy solution - no expiration date.


133 posted on 12/27/2006 8:59:02 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: rellimpank

People do not realize that gift cards are the Next Big Thing.

It turns out that they are MAJOR profit centers for companies, including American Express, Visa and MasterCard. I am actually working on a project where they are willing to handle the creation and distribution of $50 gift cards and only charge companies $47 for them. The company gets a 6% profit right off the top, and AmEX sits on literally BILLIONS of unspent money which is accruing interest daily. They also have proven formulas as to how many of the cards will simply be lost or thrown away. It is a TON of money!

It is free money. And lazy people GIVE it to them. Now the government wants it. Fascism has many faces.


134 posted on 12/27/2006 9:04:25 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: rellimpank

There are gift cards, and there are gift cards with expiration dates. The former should be left alone. The latter should not exist. Taking those funds from the company does sort of make sense.

I hate when gift certificates expire. The dollars they were purchased with certainly did not expire


135 posted on 12/27/2006 9:06:10 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The smell gives it away.


136 posted on 12/27/2006 10:30:13 AM PST by em2vn
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To: em2vn
The smell gives it away.

Y'all got one hell of a sniffer there.    =;^)

137 posted on 12/27/2006 11:33:47 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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