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Head scarfs are degrading to womans rights, so it is a good thing that the French have banned them. The new ban against head scarfs empowers woman to have freedom to say no.

Headscarf's however should not be considered religious, becuase they are cultural in tradition, belonging predominately to a culture who just happens to worship Mohammad, yet a cultural hindrance to the freedom and rights of woman worldwide. But describing the law as being a fair ban on all religious relics in public is a mistake because, the separation of church and state works best when it allows the the state to grant freedom of religion, and not freedom to own the right from viewing others peoples religion.

1 posted on 12/23/2006 6:32:11 PM PST by seastay
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To: seastay
It's an odd enough thing to do, to ban headscarves," he says

No it's not an odd thing to do - it's the smart thing to do and the French are sticking to their guns on this issue.

2 posted on 12/23/2006 6:35:45 PM PST by x_plus_one
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In fact, the major effect of the law's passage has been to build support for a private school sector that is under development for Muslims in France, Bowen says.

The law of unintended consequences. This will lead to further segregation.

3 posted on 12/23/2006 6:38:06 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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March 15th will mark the third anniversary of a law passed by the French government banning from public schools all clothing that indicates a student's religious affiliation.

So it is all right if non-Muslim girls wear headscarves?

Just checking

Sounds as insane as that US school that banned pink/black clothing because they thought they were "gang-oolours"

4 posted on 12/23/2006 6:41:06 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (South Park Liberal)
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The fact that there are so many different head coverings proves it is not religious but local custom. This is a religion that governs every single thing, the fact that there is no one covering tells you all you need to know.


5 posted on 12/23/2006 6:50:32 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't bring what you ran away from to my home state-Freeper WatchingInAmazement)
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They need to wear the proper kind of headscarf:


7 posted on 12/23/2006 7:28:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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Head scarves are not denegrating to women's rights. Mandatory wearing is denegrating as is prohibition. Rights mean you would have the right to wear it or not.

School kids often are told what they can and cannot wear. If they allow head coverings, hats etc., they should allow scarves.

The French should be more concerned about a moslem population explosion and young arabs setting fire to cars and attacking police officers.

12 posted on 12/23/2006 8:04:21 PM PST by carolinalivin
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The picture of an oppressed woman.


13 posted on 12/23/2006 8:07:48 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Making every thread a Star Wars thread, one post at a time!!!)
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Bowen has been following one school, which is likely to be the first to receive state funding.

Be careful that they don't segregate all into their own schools, preaching their own message, at the multicultural expense of the taxpayers.

In the French case at least some of their public school indoctrination is probably a good thing. Better these kids turn out French than Jihadists! They shouldn't stop at the scarves. PE classes in standard US school attire, where they can be seen by the opposite sex in shorts and t-shirts, is important to desensitize the potential rapists to displays of knees and elbows and to empower wannabee feminists. If Daddy doesn't like it he can take her back to wherever and give up all those welfare euros. Requiring them all to shower after PE is alas too much to expect; this is France afterall.

16 posted on 12/23/2006 8:40:30 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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John R. Bowen, Ph.D., the Dunbar-Van Cleve Professor of Sociocultural Anthropology in Arts & Sciences at Washington University in St. Louis

Oh my! Does that come with a uniform and fruit salad?

The French need to ban Muslim immigration, not head scarves. Banning head scarves is just a way of continuing the fiction that a France where the French are a minority will still be France.

17 posted on 12/23/2006 9:02:00 PM PST by jordan8
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At first the extremists will whine and butcher, then they will pick up and move back to their hideous hellhole countries. This is why strict cultural laws even just on religious headdress would be so effective.


18 posted on 12/24/2006 3:07:07 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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