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David Irving: Jews should ask themselves why they are hated
Haaretz ^ | December 23, 2006 | Amiram Barkat

Posted on 12/23/2006 1:58:30 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Holocaust denier David Irving on Friday said Jews should ask themselves why they have been hated throughout history.

"They [Jews] should ask themselves the question, 'Why have they been so hated for 3000 years that there has been pogrom after pogrom in country after country?', said Irving, speaking at a press conference he convened in England on Friday, a day after he was released from an Austrian prison.

Irving, who was sentenced to three years in prison for denying the Holocaust, was released last week after his appeal was granted.

Asked if he sees himself as anti-Semitic, Irving said, "No, I like to think I am not."

But immediately following his answer, Irving expressed his support for Mel Gibson's comments that "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world."

Irving also took pride in the success of his books and claimed that he the fortune he made from sales of his biography on World War II German General Erwin Rommel enabled him to walk into a car showroom with a paper bag stuffed with cash to buy a "Nigger brown Rolls-Royce."

Irving's comments aroused great anger within Britain's Jewish community.

Lord Janner, president of the Holocaust Educational Trust, said Irving's release was "unwarranted" and that Irving's "latest comments were totally to be expected and should be totally ignored."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antijew; antisemitism; davidirving; hatespeech; holocaust; irving; nazi; racist; stuckonstupid
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To: Doc Savage

I call people like that Jews in Name Only. Yes, there are self-destructive people in every group. Think of the 10 Good Men whom Abraham tried to save.


241 posted on 12/24/2006 5:32:49 PM PST by juliej ( - vote GOP!)
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To: antisocial

You are looking for an excuse for your own hatred. The biggest haters and destroyers of Jews today are the Islamofascists who are not too wild about you either.


242 posted on 12/24/2006 5:37:54 PM PST by juliej ( - vote GOP!)
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To: hlmencken3
From my reading, the house of Judah after the split of the tribes contained Judah and Benjamin, with their Levite priests and a scattering of members of other tribes who chose Judah over Israel. Smart move for them as it turned out.

Just right to the fruits of labor, except loss through a true crime, not expulsion. Expulsion for cause has always been the inherent right of the whole of any political group. Not many place to expel anyone nowadays, though.

243 posted on 12/24/2006 6:50:30 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: WLR

Thank you very much. I can always count on folks to point out the bad side of everyone whenever they are looking up.

Merry Christmas to you too! :)


244 posted on 12/24/2006 7:11:55 PM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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To: Soothesayer
You still have some shred of integrity it appears. I notice you do not refute my comments, a wise choice, Only that I dare make them.. Merry Christmas from on high to you too.


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245 posted on 12/24/2006 8:01:28 PM PST by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: kenth
They're God's chosen people, therefore evil throughout the world will try to do away with them.

Indeed. I see the Jews as the older brothers to Catholics such as myself. I feel honor-bound to love and defend them although we differ on many aspects of belief.

246 posted on 12/24/2006 8:16:12 PM PST by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: William Terrell

Ezekiel 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

Ezek 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.


247 posted on 12/25/2006 3:24:19 AM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: hlmencken3
Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

Hosea 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

248 posted on 12/25/2006 6:28:26 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: juliej

I have no hatred for Jews, I love them. I just hate liberals.
It is hard to love the Jews that hate Israel and themselves.


249 posted on 12/25/2006 7:02:22 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: technochick99

****Indeed. I see the Jews as the older brothers to Catholics such as myself. I feel honor-bound to love and defend them although we differ on many aspects of belief.****

We do differ on aspects of belief, but the beliefs we hold in common are basic and of great importance.

The Ten Commandments - the basic precepts of morality and what it means to live a moral life. The kindness and caring for others, trying to "heal the world" - we share all this.

I think both Moses and Christ would agree on this and I think both would be happy to know that we share these common goals.

And just as important...that after centuries of struggle with one another, that hopefully we have finally come to a brotherly/sisterly understanding that each sibling has something to offer the other and that neither is a threat to the other.


250 posted on 12/25/2006 7:10:31 AM PST by Basheva
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To: antisocial

I have no use for self-haters - period. Unfortunately, it is a psychological disease.


251 posted on 12/25/2006 10:52:07 AM PST by juliej ( - vote GOP!)
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To: montag813
I dont agree at all. Torture them, slit their throats, gut them, and hang them upside down on a pole. Let others who would spread hatred of Jews see them and be afraid, as it is so proscribed in Deuteronomy.

For denying the Holocaust?

252 posted on 12/27/2006 10:53:04 AM PST by secretagent
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To: antisocial

Irving should ask himself why he is so despised. Could it be because he is a bigot and a jerk?????


253 posted on 12/28/2006 9:12:20 AM PST by juliej ( - vote GOP!)
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To: Capt. Tom
6. They are big supporters of socialism which tends to turn conservatives against them.
And socialists and communists attack Jews for being capitalists.
Most socialist Jews aren't actually Jewish except as an ethnic label and excuse to bear a grudge.
254 posted on 01/14/2007 2:04:35 AM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: MosesKnows

Christian anti-Judaism, and a plot to steal Jewish proptery. The only exception is Spain, where the above was true, but Jews were treated the same as Muslims. Spain was to be Catholic only. Jews were viewed as collaborators with the Muslims.


255 posted on 01/14/2007 2:18:21 AM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"...with a paper bag stuffed with cash to buy a "Nigger brown Rolls-Royce."

This guy is going to find the trouble he's looking for.

256 posted on 01/14/2007 2:35:19 AM PST by BobS
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To: West Coast Conservative

I always hear from anti-semites as to why Jews should ask themselves why they are hated. As if its some deep dark mystery.
Jews are simply hated because for 2 thousand years they bucked the trend and did not disappear. They rejected Paul's reinterpretation of Yeshua the Nazorean, especially since Yeshua himself was a Jew. They rejected Mohammed's alternative which was partly derived from Judaism itself. And they rejected Martin Luthers rejection of the Church, the Pope and the bureaucracy.
With such a history of individuality the whipping post characterization of the Jews has persisted so that in the subsequent ages of Enlightenment and Political Correctness the original reasons has been forgotten.


257 posted on 01/20/2007 10:06:27 PM PST by kreplach
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Jews are a conspicuously successful minority in almost every country where they are allowed freedom.

This doesn't tell us why the hatred continues when Jews are forced into ghettos or servitude and lose that success.

The bible at least suggests an answer to that question. The Jews are destined to be placed by God in world domination in the future (through supernatural event, not through conspiracy) and the devil is constantly enraged at that.

258 posted on 01/20/2007 10:12:36 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Jews are a conspicuously successful minority in almost every country where they are allowed freedom.

This doesn't tell us why the hatred continues when Jews are forced into ghettos or servitude and lose that success.

The bible at least suggests an answer to that question. The Jews are destined to be placed by God in world domination in the future (through supernatural event, not through conspiracy) and the devil is constantly enraged at that.

259 posted on 01/20/2007 10:13:08 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: baa39

Freedom of Speech as we know it doesn't exist in Germany and Austria. Our first Amendment doesn't apply in Europe or anywhere else.


260 posted on 01/20/2007 10:19:50 PM PST by tomcorn
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