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To: SolidWood
Not really - in both WWI & WWII, we controlled the media (through formal communications offices) and enforced strict treason/sedition laws. Even so, during both incidents there were those who were opposed to the war effort, and were prosecuted accordingly.

Bush's most egregious failing has been his belief that Iraq could somehow be conducted contrary to the entire history of warfare, and that we could win over an intractable enemy (both Islamics & the MSM) via some ridiculous hearts&minds campaign.

Even an introspective professor from Princeton knew that once a war was on, the gloves came off. In some ways Wilson was more extreme than Roosevelt. Bush has led this effort much the same way he has lived his life: go along to get along.

I think letting the Dems take control might turn out to be a good thing. Now that they're in charge, it's they who are essentially responsible for victory. That's why we're seeing movement about increasing troop strength.

The real telling sign is if we revise the rules of engagement. If our guys get a green-light, we might actually still win this thing.

21 posted on 12/22/2006 5:38:22 PM PST by Chuck Dent
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To: Chuck Dent

Neither Wilson nor FDR had to worry about:
- The ACLU
- out of control trial lawyers
- The diversity and tolerance mentality run amok
- a significant fraction of affluent intellectuals who are anti American globalists to the bone

If Bush tried to do what they did, he'd be impeached. Wrongly impeached, but impeached nonetheless.

This is a full blown Constitutional crisis, but few are willing to admit it yet.


29 posted on 12/22/2006 5:57:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Chuck Dent
I think letting the Dems take control might turn out to be a good thing. Now that they're in charge, it's they who are essentially responsible for victory. That's why we're seeing movement about increasing troop strength.

The real telling sign is if we revise the rules of engagement. If our guys get a green-light, we might actually still win this thing.

Well I am glad I'm not the only one thinking along those lines. They wanted control, now they have it. Let's see what they can do with it.

Have you noticed that all of a sudden troop increases have begun to be shot down, as more troops equals more causualties. Crazy JFK talking again.

If the prez or even Tony Snow is freeping, kill the bad guys day and night, all day everyday, and the American people will support this war!!Get our men and women into combat where we have the advantage over the insurgents. Take the fight right to them, quit reacting to the road side bombs, take over the roads and kill anything that gets close to them. Fight the damn war already!

I know I am tired of hearing this soldier or that soldier was killed today in a roadside bomb attack.

I want to hear, ...and after the attack the US marines swept in to the town and after a heated gun battle with insurgents, killed and captured ### insurgents, and placed the town under a strict curfew, and will continue operations inplace until the violence ceases.

44 posted on 12/22/2006 8:17:04 PM PST by snodog
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