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Assault on Deadly Smoking a Model for Fighting Sprawl (Smoking Ban Next Step)
The Scranton Times-Tribune ^ | 12/22/06 | Thomas Hylton

Posted on 12/22/2006 12:20:39 PM PST by Namyak

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To: SheLion

With a quick search, the Author of the article lives in Pottstown PA and it looks like his front yard view is a parkinglot.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=222+Chestnut+St,+Pottstown,+PA
I don't want to be hemmed in like that - on any subject.

My house is the result of 'sprawl' in the 40's.
I suppose they will tax that too...


101 posted on 12/23/2006 6:27:08 AM PST by libertarian27
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To: Ditter; CastleMan95; sergeantdave; elkfersupper; mplsconservative

FYI: http://www.lifb.com/agriculture_on_li.0.html

Notice the copyright date...2004

The article mentions 5,000 acres, but I wonder if that included horse "farms", a growing part of the industry.

I remember when there were 27,000 acres being farmed, then I heard it was down to 7,000. The figure mentioned, 5,000 acres, is out of date, and today's figure is probably considerably less, but I've heard that the slowing home building market has taken some of the pressure off.

Ditter, you answered a question for me with your remark about the way the Amish have sold off the edges of their farms in Pa. There are many Amish buying farms in upstate NY and I wondered where they got the money, since I never heard that they were abandoning Pa.

Many farmers on LI were able to continue farming, long after rising property taxes would have forced them out, by selling off building lots on the edges of their farms.

Alot of the agricultural output is flowers and plants, raised in greenhouses. Growing sod is also a factor. There is also a remnant of the once huge duck farming industry.

Serving agricultural customers was, for quite a few years, an important part of my business.


102 posted on 12/23/2006 11:56:17 AM PST by gas0linealley
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To: CastleMan95

"What do you propose for a solution to the "problem" of sprawl? The problem I'm having here is that many times the solution offered involves increased regulation, restriction, and control of private property. We wouldn't put up with increased government restriction of free speech...why should we allow it in regards to private property rights? They are obviously both guaranteed by the Constitution. I'm not saying you're solution would involve increased government restriction. Its been my experience, however, that talk of controlling sprawl = restriction of private property rights."

The only answer I know of:
http://prfamerica.org/OdeToTackiness.html


103 posted on 12/23/2006 1:03:01 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: Gaffer
I believe smoker healthcare costs are over-emphasized, not only to de-emphasize the cost of healthcare for the elderly, but also for illegals and the poor. We can't stop healthcare for the elderly, but we can sure make certain that illegals don't get free healthcare.

Well, I believe that since the lawmakers have no idea what to do about the illegals and how to stop their health care, they take the easy way out and just blame the high cost on fatty people and smokers.  The easy way out, you know.  What politician have you ever met that just wanted the easy way out and to hell with their constituents? heh!

104 posted on 12/23/2006 3:49:46 PM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: libertarian27
My house is the result of 'sprawl' in the 40's.
I suppose they will tax that too...

I have lived in this house for such a long time just surrounded by fields as far as the eye can see.  It would kill me to live house to house like that again.  I could not stand all the kids and the traffic noise and the barking dogs now.

It's so peaceful and quiet where I live, that the noise from a busy city would drive me right up the wall today.

105 posted on 12/23/2006 3:52:12 PM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: gas0linealley
Serving agricultural customers was, for quite a few years, an important part of my business.

Then maybe you shoud stop advocating these takings.

106 posted on 12/23/2006 8:03:39 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: demsux

"Are you calling me a name???"

Do you qualify for it?


107 posted on 12/23/2006 10:38:26 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Go back to school.


108 posted on 12/24/2006 4:45:52 AM PST by demsux
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To: sergeantdave

yep, and thats why we bought our 100 acres


109 posted on 12/24/2006 11:00:24 PM PST by MTMS
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To: demsux

More schooling is always good however I will leave registration in Nitwittery 101 to you.


110 posted on 12/27/2006 7:48:48 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Namyak

Huh? Where do I go to get paid for writing such crap?


111 posted on 12/27/2006 7:53:27 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Namyak

This article made me want to vomit.


112 posted on 01/03/2007 8:15:14 PM PST by nimbuscloud
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To: Nathan Zachary

"Rosie O Donnel" should be charged 10 times the ticket price, 4 for her fat and 6 for her mouth!


113 posted on 01/03/2007 8:40:14 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Namyak
Not once do I see this individual take in to consideration that the undeveloped property they wish to save from sprawl...is more than likely someones private property. Mr. Pulitzer Prize would be yapping away if the government tried to restrict his right to free speech, so why does he seem to advocate further governmental restriction of private property? Both are supposed to be protected in the Constitution.
114 posted on 01/04/2007 1:31:50 PM PST by CastleMan95
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To: CastleMan95

whoops...didnt realize this was the same thread I posted to before...I'll go away now.


115 posted on 01/04/2007 1:34:57 PM PST by CastleMan95
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