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PFIZER'S MCKINNELL TO GET $180 MILLION RETIREMENT PACKAGE
Yahoo Finance ^ | 21 December 2006 | Ellen Simon

Posted on 12/21/2006 8:36:07 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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Wow. How do those fellas do that? I work like a dog while putting up with a large number of disrespectful, hateful teenagers for almost half of what they give this gentelman just for his car!!!!!!! This guy, what did he do to make the company pay him that much? Oh man...I am out of breath, standing up in my chair and stomping the keyboard with my feet! We're going to end up with a "Hugo Chavez" here appealing to the poor to rise up and revolt over such as that.
1 posted on 12/21/2006 8:36:09 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

No wonder drug prices are soooooooo $$$$$$.


2 posted on 12/21/2006 8:38:50 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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No wonder drug prices are soooooooo $$$$$$.

I am not proposing any government intervention, but can't SOMEONE at the company prevent this type of distortion of reality from occurring?

3 posted on 12/21/2006 8:42:42 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If corporate boards were actually governing bodies of any sort, then this sort of thing wouldn't happen. Instead they've turned into an old boys' network where backs are reciprocally rubbed and everyone looks the other way. If the investor's best interests aren't being looked out for, why would one presume that the interests of consumers or workers would?


4 posted on 12/21/2006 8:45:18 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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If corporate boards were actually governing bodies of any sort, then this sort of thing wouldn't happen. Instead they've turned into an old boys' network where backs are reciprocally rubbed and everyone looks the other way. If the investor's best interests aren't being looked out for, why would one presume that the interests of consumers or workers would?

Capitalism is good. This is not capitalism but cronyism. In effect the cronies on the board of directors are looting the profits of the company and in effect screwing the shareholders. Unfortunately in many of the major companies this is common and not the exception. These actions will eventually disgust the public and shareholders and will be replaced with something even worse,GOVERNMENT CONTROL>

5 posted on 12/21/2006 8:57:22 PM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash and proud of it, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast)
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To: Old_Mil

If we start limiting what someone can make, it will trickle down and whatever any of you are making now will go down as well.....we can do without socialism...

Whatever any of you are making is probably much more than the clerk at Wal-Mart or the janitor in my building....

So, you should cut your pay to be in line with those who make less than you....

It's all relative....why not get a better education or work for a multinational company, and move up the ladder a be a wonderful manager?


6 posted on 12/21/2006 9:01:00 PM PST by Ecliptic (Keep looking to the sky)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Puts him on par with pro athletes (salaries.) Granted, it's a retirement vs wages for the athletes. The overall payout figures are comparable.


7 posted on 12/21/2006 9:10:19 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I assume that Ellen, the author, is an anti-capitalist.

If (big If) the facts are as stated and one deducts the detailed sums noted, it appears that the retiring Exec only got about 12 million as a retirement pkg. Most of the rest was earned from his time serving (pension) or deferred from prior years.

Now, if one hates capitalism, one will try and agglommerate all possible sums to make a really, really big number, in an effort to incite a riot. Pretty juvenile way to present an argument, IMHO.


8 posted on 12/21/2006 9:42:44 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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What a bunch of class-envy freepers here!! They should just go back and reread Capitalism.


9 posted on 12/21/2006 9:46:51 PM PST by nwrep
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bttt


10 posted on 12/21/2006 9:50:37 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The investors elected the board of directors and the board approved his package.

I agree with you though on the apparent injustice of it all. I think that a few of these people return good payoffs for the investments in them. But many are okay people who make the image, fill the bill, and fit the mold.

Others are chameleons, people with a sense of entitlement and ownership, and are willing to be ruthless deceitful and unscrupulous toward achieving their climb.

I have seen it all.
11 posted on 12/21/2006 11:23:14 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Ecliptic

Nobody has talked about having the government limiting what an executive can make. The question is whether cronyism in upper management is diverting returns that should rightly be going to elsewhere into executive compensation packages.


12 posted on 12/21/2006 11:29:02 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

this is why its politically impossible to be against a minimum wage increase. people like this aren't "building" great american companies - they are looting them.


13 posted on 12/21/2006 11:32:45 PM PST by oceanview
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
He oversaw VIAGRA hitting the market. Arguably, he is underpaid. I wouldn't make that argument but it is an argument which could be made.

The part I don't get is why so many people think that whatever this tool makes has anything to do with what the janitor gets paid or what the minimum wage should be. Its not like anybody else in the entire country would make a dime more if they guy got $1M instead of $180M.

I thought this was a country where people wanted to become rich instead of just hating others for getting there? If anybody else became the CEO of one of the countries larger pharma companies and created and rolled out a $15B drug, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't turn down the $180M they offered you since you drove the stock price up by somewhere around ten to twenty billion in market cap.

14 posted on 12/21/2006 11:36:57 PM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
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Too much envy going around.


15 posted on 12/21/2006 11:39:53 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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You are correct. Corrupt practices are capitalism but cronyism. But when this CEO signed on for the job, they promised to pay him whatever it is that he is getting now. And the stock has had a very nice run in the last 5-10 years despite a current slide.

Personally, I'm not sure why the institutional shareholders like CALPERS and other bigboys aren't putting their own people on the boards so they can improve their returns by limiting excessive compensation like this.

16 posted on 12/21/2006 11:40:55 PM PST by bpjam (Never Give Up, Never Surrender (Unless James Baker gives you permission))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Damn! No wonder the stock sucks.


17 posted on 12/21/2006 11:57:41 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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No, the stock sucks because Zoloft and Z-Pak lost patent, Lipitor's is not far behind (not to mention the generic competition from Merck's molecule) and torcetrapib got axed before it got out of the gate.


18 posted on 12/22/2006 2:11:41 AM PST by the808bass
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To: Ecliptic
It's all relative....why not get a better education or work for a multinational company, and move up the ladder a be a wonderful manager?

Many people are FAR more well-educated than that chap. And, wonderful managers seldom MAKE IT TO THE TOP! Arrrgh!!! We are all entitled to our opinions. The poster who indicated that this is cronyism pretty well nailed it. This has nothing to do with rightful earnings for services rendered, education or other worthy reasons -- this can NOT be justified on the basis of those arguments. I'm telling you and everyone else and you can read and understand or reject (you have that right): If much more of this occurs, we're going to see major sociopolitical turmoil result. Now, right that down and see if it does or doesn't come true.

19 posted on 12/22/2006 5:08:00 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Nobody has talked about having the government limiting what an executive can make. The question is whether cronyism in upper management is diverting returns that should rightly be going to elsewhere into executive compensation packages.

Yes sir.

20 posted on 12/22/2006 5:09:30 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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